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Keith Vaz

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jinglbellsfrocks Sun 04-Sept-16 22:47:00

Actually, I'm saying nothing else. Just thought I'd start a thread.

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 19:48:36

Has he admitted to taking drugs?

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 19:57:38

Disagree Jalima, some have no problem with coming out, some do. he became an MP over thirty years ago, it was easy to come out then? Glad your friend is in a close relationship , I have gay friends in close relationships, did have one who hanged himself though, he couldn't cope with coming out.

Anyway, seems Vaz had more to come, the far left of the party want him off the NEC and out of parliment.

I think Vaz paid a heavy price but not heavy enough for some , blood is wanted

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 20:01:57

I haven't read he has admitted to taking drugs Daphne. I believe the mirror has printed an alleged transcript of the secret recording along with a photograph of Vaz buggering one of the prostitutes,

Jalima Tue 06-Sept-16 20:08:34

hmm I think resignation from the Select Committee was enough. His constituents should decide whether they still want him as MP or not at the next election not mob rule.

Jalima Tue 06-Sept-16 20:10:18

Has he admitted to taking drugs?
If it is untrue then I apologise to him (I thought it had been established that he had).

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 20:16:26

I don't know. I haven't read the Mirror article. I thought he said something about poppers, which aren't illegal.

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 20:18:40

I think he said he would not take coccaine and also he asked about the effect of poppers ,the latter legal. I hive not heard he said he took drugs, I expect someone who read the alleged transcript will know and confirm if he did admit it or not.,

rosesarered Tue 06-Sept-16 20:54:00

I think he is finished as an MP, but we shall see.

Ana Tue 06-Sept-16 21:01:32

I can't believe that even the Mirror printed a photo of Vaz 'buggering one of the prostitutes'! shock

rosesarered Tue 06-Sept-16 21:05:41

In that case, he is certainly finished as an MP.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 06-Sept-16 21:05:59

No!!!

Link?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 06-Sept-16 21:07:21

Poppers are muscle relaxants. Makes things easier.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 06-Sept-16 21:07:43

I'm going to shut up now.

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 21:15:17

Jingle,,I took your advice and googled virtual thingy. The Spectator describes these people as abnoxious . Fair enough

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 21:23:51

OMG! I've just looked at the Mirror. I can't quite believe it either that they printed pictures.

My opinion is that there are many historical reasons for not trusting Vaz, but this is disgraceful journalism.

As far as I know (and more may be revealed) he has done nothing illegal. I think he was right to resign from the Home Affairs Committee, as this is a conflict of interest. Whatever happens with his wife is not my business and I don't really care that he's homosexual or bi. I certainly don't want to see pictures of him.

I must admit that if I were in his shoes and some 'dirty secret' had been uncovered, I wouldn't want to carry on being in the public eye.

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 21:25:05

Which people are obnoxious?

Deedaa Tue 06-Sept-16 21:26:44

I'm not bothered about him wanting to hide his sexuality, most of us would like to keep our private lives private. What I am bothered about is a high profile politician who is stupid enough to indulge in risky activities. Any one paying for sex is open to possible infection on the one hand or possibly even blackmail.

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 21:32:22

People like me Daphne, Jingle said I did virtual signalling, I had no idea what it meant so dhe told me to google it, I did and there was an article in the spectator which described these people as obnoxious, am I bothered ? nope, been called worse than thst grin

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 21:34:17

I agree with you, Deedaa.

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 21:40:14

Deeda, his choice to risk infection and his money would have to pay blackmailers.

I think he has done much good for many people and this is what matters to me . It is assumed his wife must be devasted, perhaps she is, perhaps she knows his sexual preference .

Reminds me of my weeping when John Diamond wrote his column on his fight with cancer, there was even a short documentary series, I ached for Nigella , think the country did, but hey ho, Nigella was having an affair with husband to be no 2

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 21:41:17

@ab

Aha! I see. It's a pretty meaningless term in itself and is only obnoxious if people disagree with the views being supported.

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 21:48:41

@ab

Vaz seems to have been guilty of 'hubris' (a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous over-confidence). In Greek and classical literature, heroes were often guilty of hubris or 'getting above themselves'. In Greek literature, they offended the gods. Today, I suppose they offend public opinion and media bosses.

I agree that there is an awful lot of moral hypocrisy in the media, who are influential in shaping people's opinions. Vaz must have pi$$ed off quite a few people to be treated like this.

Anniebach Tue 06-Sept-16 22:12:05

he certainly has bugged people Daphne, add to it he was friendly with the Blairs, he Certsintly didn't hold back on the phone hacking scandal, upset the media.bet he has been on a hit list for a while with different groups

daphnedill Tue 06-Sept-16 22:17:25

Sorry, ab, but I think he's the author of his own downfall. I'm not going to get into any conspiracy theories. Anybody who goes into politics should know how to be careful with the media and his/her reputation.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 06-Sept-16 22:27:11

You are simply extremely virtuous ab. Everyone on this site knows that.