Oh my dear God. Those children in Allepo!

Click?

Think about it Luckygirl. Just how are we to blame for the wicked actions of a probable madman?

Sorry dj CBA with any more of your links, or your political posturing.

Two grandmothers in the link, by the way.

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Care in the community? Care international and how they help the Syrian community. Great ethos, and every little helps.

Universal responsibility is a bit like care in the community.

Great ethos but nobody wants to own up when it doesn't work.

I think you have missed the point about the song jingl - it is not attacking soldiers, but pointing out the universal responsibility that we all carry for wars, and the sheer pointlessness of it all.

lyrics

Hardly relevant to this thread.

It probably did, but it was actually written (and originally recorded) by Buffy Sainte-Marie, who said of the song "It's about individual responsibility for war and how the old feudal thinking kills us all."

No doubt it helped to make Donovan rich.

So unfair to blame the troops. (silly song) How about the evil dictators doing all the wanton killing and wounding?

What happened to supporting the heroes?

I agree, Luckygirl.
Universal Soldier was a protest song against war.
Would Vietnam have ended without protest?
I feel a bit of hope at the moment with Russia having been persuaded to go along with the US and the UN being allowed to take aid in.
See if this peace process works.
Having seen the photos on the news, I can't imagine how anyone can think that Syrian refugees should go back there.
The whole country is just a war zone.

I think that the Univeral Soldier is one of the most moving songs ever written and is highly pertinent in this sad sad situation.

I have no idea whatsoever what the solution is to this problem. I just feel despair at the apparent impotence of everyone to find a way forward.

Yes, heard about this on the radio at midnight just as I was going to bed.Hope some good will come of it.

Some good news at last. If the Americans can really cooperate with the Russians in bringing about an end to all this, that would be wonderful. I've got a lot of respect for John Kerry.

Oh take it to another thread!

Indeed, and that is true on so many other threads.

This is one of the saddest threads I have read, and not because of the subject, but because it has shown a really attacking nature of so many posters. We can't decide on what should be done, but we could be polite to each other.

Somehow pop songs don't tie in with those stunned looking, blood covered, children I saw on the telly.

"He doesn't see the writing on the wall
..........This is not the way we put the end to war."

Makes me think of my husband playing his guitar and singing it, complete with harmonica and the holder on his shoulders, while my brother was a soldier in Aden, now Yemen.

I like it too djen, it makes me want to cry when I think of the futility of war.

Thanks, wot.
I like that song, hilda.

The slanging match is over.

I'm having a go at nobody in particular, just everyone in general.

I don't like people picking on DJ
She is passionate about politics and people should respect that. It's not nice to keep having a go at her.

Why has this all descended into a slanging match? Compassion has gone out of the window. Poor people are dying in Syria and you are fighting over petty words written on a forum.
Here's a song from the sixties you might all remember, it's as relevant today as it was in the Vietnam war era.
Donovan