Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

But the name on the voting paper is chosen by the party members.
One of the things that was wrong in Blair's era was the parachuting in of favourites. What's the difference between what Blair did and what you think Corbyn is going to do?

It amused me when I said Corbyn made the most stupid comment when he said Foot was a great success I was asked did I blame Corbyn

How can an election with the result Tories 397. Labour 209 be considered a great success

I know it was abolished but by giving MP's a percentage of the votes as put forward by the deputy leader, it would ,in my opinion, be a move towards unity .

MP's are voted in by their constituency , not all are Labour Party members , not all who vote for a labour government are on the far left.

It does amuse me that those people who have condemned Momentum and others for using personal attacks are quite prepared to make personal remarks about Corbyn.
If being ignored worries the deputy leader he could always resign.
Annie you know your Labour history
The PLP voted to abolish Shadow Cabinet elections at a meeting on 5 July 2011
"Ooh but now we've changed our minds!" they cry. "We don't like Jeremy so we're not letting him do it!"

inews.co.uk/opinion/rebecca-long-bailey-mp-time-press-reset-button-labour/

Seems labour MP's will not get a vote on the shadow cabinet , so the deputy leader is ignored yet again . Unity? Too funny

She's at that meeting, too.

Obviously you are not interested in unity, judging by your last comment.
Such a shame.

As you disagree with momentum having meetings, Annie, I hope you also disagree with Labour First holding a meeting at the moment, with Hilary Benn talking to them.
Laura Kuennsberg is there rather than at the Labour conference proper.
What do you say about that?
Corbyn was asked this morning about whether Hilary Benn would come back to the front bench. His response was that Hilary Benn was going to lead Labour's Brexit group. That's less than a day after Benn said it was time for unity.
Talking to Labour First is not unity.

Ruth Smeeth has just been interviewed, thank heaven someone spoke up for the 40% who didn't vote for Corbyn

You cannot overlook weakness in a Leader. Corbyn frequently looks out of his depth. Fair enough - but stay in the shallows mate because politics is hard and bloody.
It is not a prejudicial assessment - the man may have some qualities - but he is not suitable to lead the Nation in these difficult Brexit times ahead.

Doubt there is an answer whitewave which is sad. Look at the two posts above, a poster believes Corbyn is not a good leader and is accused of unjustified prejudice

I do not believe he is a good leader so I too am accused of unjustified prejudice , I have always given my reasons for saying he is a weak leader , not predjuduce and for me justified

Biggest party membership in Europe, and they are still joining because Corbyn won.

beam that may eventually prove to be true, we don't yet know given what Corbyn has had to battle against this past year. Given the sort of support one would expect from the party MPs who knows what he would have achieved? but we are where we are, and it is time to begin to do the job people elected the MPs for and that is opposing the Tories, and to begin to put all our energies into providing a united front.

An awful lot of people disagree with you Beam that's why he was elected. Would you like to say why you don't think he is a leader or is it the usual unjustifiable prejudice?

The Message is not the problem; it is the Messenger. Corbyn is not a leader. End of story.

Nobody has said that Corbyn is the only MP who is concerned for the vulnerable. I know he isn't. I know lots are. But oughtn't you to be discussing how the labour party can work together, rather than just saying they can't.

They are going to be united against grammar schools.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him on the NHS possibly shouldn't pretend to be a labour MP.

What do you suggest happens then annie in order for you to begin to talk to your friends again?

I am absolutely willing to talk with you. What needs to happen is to sweep the floor clean -accept that stuff was said on both sides for which we can all feel sore about - but accept that it is time to grow up and push on forward.

because on this forum a calm discussion seems impossible . I am disgusted that those remarks were made about McVey - and I rejoiced when she lost her seat - but this easy talk of rape and lynching is wrong .

I also cannot agree that Corbyn is the only MP who is concerned for the vunerable, much of his policies have always been the policies of the party,.

I really do not believe the party can come together untill BOTH sides work together

annie how about trying to find stuff that the Labour Party can agree on? The point is it simply isn't going to work and be a credible opposition to this ragbag of a government if we don't come together we have much more in common than not. So much stuff this government is doing or not doing is an open goal and such easy meat.

The differences can be gradually worked out over the next few years, there is no rush and quiet debate and chat will achieve almost certainly something we can all live with. By arguing like we are we are simply giving joy to the Tories.

Are you sure you are a member of the labour party, Annie?

Esther McVey is responsible for Tory cuts to benefits. You think he should apologise to someone who has made life a lot harder for those you purport to support?
There are going to be a lot more homeless and visiting foodbanks because of her.

McDonald refuses to apologise for saying Esther McVay was a stain on humanity and should be lynched .

Expect it was just a joke

Biggest mistake some of the PLPs made in challenging Corbyns leadership. Instead of him loosing he has regained the leadership with a bigger majority and attracted even more people to the Labour Party.

It is now the biggest political party in Europe. If you believe those critical of Corbyn all the new members are communists or old trots.

Yes the Momentum hall was packed, the communist party were displaying banners pushing for deselection of MP's , sure way to unite the party.

If Corbyn was to cut away from Momentum I would consider believing what he says .

My comments on the half empty hall was just expressing my sadness on the split in the party , do not tell me what and how to post please

Do you have some secret communication with Corbyn Anniebach? If not how can you know that he has no wish to unite the party. He has constantly said that is what he wants. Disbelieve him by all means but post this as such not as a statement of fact.
You noticed that the hall at conference was half empty, did you also see that the momentum event was absolutely packed? Something must be going on there!

inews.co.uk/opinion/jeremy-corbyns-re-election-important-victory-democracy/