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International Peace Day

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grannyactivist Tue 20-Sept-16 20:55:18

Some of you may remember that on this day each year I wear my white 'peace poppy'. Does anyone else mark the day?
www.un.org/en/events/peaceday/index.shtml

nigglynellie Thu 22-Sept-16 19:53:30

Sorry, it not bit!

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 19:52:52

Jingl, the Peace Pledge Union says that the UK government should stop giving arms export licences to UK companies to sell arms to Saudi.

The government is actually breaking the law that it signed up to. It is as bad as Tony Blair when he joined the US on bombing Iraq.
You can't say that selling arms to Saudi is helping the people of Yemen.

www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news-comment/2188-the-saga-of-britain-s-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia-hits-a-disturbing-new-low

nigglynellie Thu 22-Sept-16 19:52:41

So we should all have let Hitler just get on with bit ?!!! confused

JessM Thu 22-Sept-16 19:51:44

I think one or two people are being incredibly unpleasant on this thread. Those of us who have been members of GN since the beginning will remember that, amongst other things, Grannyactivist fostered a couple of teenage boys from Afghanistan. That's just one of the things she's *done". So if she wants to talk about peace as well as doing things, then what on earth is wrong with that? Why would anyone want to snipe about it I cannot imagine.
And those who are being unpleasant have been members since the early days, despite their numerous name changes.
Maybe there is some pointless talking about peace (or singing about it, in the case of my community choir last night) but that is the nature of politics and activism. Actions alone are not enough. You talk about things to people and some people listen, and think about the words and ideas spread and things can, sometimes, change. If nobody had ever started talking about votes for women, for instance, we still would not have the vote. And if nobody had ever started having little meetings to talk about the fact they thought that slavery was wrong, then it would still be accepted as a normal way for people to make money.

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 19:51:15

My problem with Pope is that you could have just done nothing rather than stir things by quoting him.

Sometimes your comments are very amusing, dj.

If my saying what I think is stirring things, so be it. It's allowed. I think the whole point of a discussion forum such as this is to encourage the exchange of differences of opinion. So long as they are expressed politely, there shouldn't be a problem about someone having a different opinion from someone else.

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 19:39:51

I prefer Martin Luther King, from the Peace Pledge Union website.

'Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction.... The chain reaction of evil — hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars — must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.'

My problem with Pope is that you could have just done nothing rather than stir things by quoting him.

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 19:29:45

I think you may have misunderstood my motivation, dj. ga will, I am sure, carry on doing things her way, which is absolutely fine.

I was simply expressing my opinion and my agreement with Pope. No-one else has to like my opinion or agree with it for it to be valid and for it not to be nasty. I doubt if Pope was being nasty too; he was just saying what he thought was a good approach. I agree with him. ga apparently doesn't. What's your problem with that?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 19:29:33

Think you might be on your own here durhamjen.

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 19:22:48

The people in Syria have asked that we stop bombing them.
They asked a long time ago, before the ceasefire.
The White Helmets in Aleppo asked for that ages ago.

Some of us believe in peace, not conflict. What's wrong with that?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37442277?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/45d1e6e1-6001-4449-801d-ba85eed04025/syrian-civil-war&link_location=live-reporting-story

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 19:17:04

You could have just ignored the thread, bags.
The question was does anyone else mark the day. Instead you have to be nasty about it.

About Peace Day?

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 19:14:47

Sometimes being "involved in conflict" is what is required to help people in need, if a group causes conflict and those on whom it is inflicted ask for help, for instance.

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 19:11:33

What's wrong with people like grannyactivist reminding people that it is International Peace Day on a forum like this?

Nothing is wrong with that. Nothing at all.

It's the "I do this, I do that" approach rather than keeping it to general information that makes one think of that quote of Pope's.

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 18:13:08

British forces have been involved in one conflict or another every year since 1914.
Time for peace?

Ana Thu 22-Sept-16 18:00:53

Yes, they're really getting controlling over at GNHQ these days aren't they?

It'll soon be 'only fluffy threads allowed'...

merlotgran Thu 22-Sept-16 17:57:21

The 'Pollyanna' thread's been deleted!

Sigh

Been in the garden this afternoon so didn't read any of the more recent posts but I'm getting sick and tired of being treated like a five year old.

durhamjen Thu 22-Sept-16 17:56:06

If we all pee in the ocean it could add up.
Although I can tell who wouldn't.

The money from buying white poppies goes to spread the word of all the peace groups.

What's wrong with people like grannyactivist reminding people that it is International Peace Day on a forum like this?
I seem to recall that's exactly what those of us who wear white poppies were told to do, to wear it on International Peace Day and not on Armistice Day.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:46:33

Back to this thread! Sorry.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:46:09

Oh shite! The 'Pollyanna' thread's been deleted!

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:43:52

"A drop in the ocean" really won't do it.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 22-Sept-16 17:42:37

Yes. That'll fix it, just like that Dramatictessa.

rosesarered Thu 22-Sept-16 17:36:30

Have to say though, I have never seen anyone at all wearing a white poppy....ever.

thatbags Thu 22-Sept-16 17:31:00

I agree with your post, dramatic.

Ana Thu 22-Sept-16 17:29:21

Agree with your post of 17.10 thatbags. I'd also add all those 'signed' posts re petitions.

Of course it's fine to post a link to a peition, but we don't need to know who's signed it, or who signed it ages ago somewhere else and it won't let them sign twice...hmm

dramatictessa Thu 22-Sept-16 17:28:20

Symbols don't accomplish anything on their own, it's what they stand for that is important. If they were worthless, there would be no corporate branding of anything - cars, political parties, charities, the list is endless. If by wearing the white poppy ga has made even one person question the reasons why, then it has achieved something. A drop in the ocean maybe, but definitely something.

rosesarered Thu 22-Sept-16 17:23:55

Though I have no objection to anyone wearing one, or wearing anything else, for that matter.