Feeling depressed

Who knows for certain how anyone votes once they get into the polling booth?! No doubt lots of people, wives in particular, profess to vote a particular way, (anything for peace!) and in reality do the complete opposite.

I think its laziness not necessarily lacking intelligence to vote the way someone else does because you trust their judgment. Some people get out of the habit of thinking for themselves in a relationship.

That was to ddil btw

Andy Burnham and Maria Eagle worked together to bring justice for the Hillsborough fans and families after years of inaction

Nothing to do with who has more power, more wondering who had had the offending papers removed, I had a guess then looked at your link.

at your posts really, sorry

Thanks, jalima, for reminding me. Should have realised.

Lizzypopbottle, you are a bit behind the times.
Michael Meacher died last year.
Tony Benn fought to give up his title so he could be an MP.
In fact he came from a line of liberal MPs. Both his grandfathers were liberal MPs, and his father was a liberal before he crossed the floor to join labour.

My DH and I would vote for the same party in general elections. I am a paid up member of a political party, he is not. I am an active political foot soldier (leafleting/ running stalls/fund raising etc) and initiate going on any rallies etc. (nb this is NOT virtue signalling ) but he is more informed on the minutiae of policies /politicians.

I could not have spent a lifetime with a person who held different political views to me. We do not agree 100% but broadly face in the same direction!
We choose not buy any papers or subscribe to TV companies that are run and owned by particular people/companies whose political attitudes we oppose. However I have read the free papers on trains and stations and free on-line papers too. must go to bed as am leafleting commuters at the station at 6:30 in the morning to inform them about a political debate in town next week!

Joe Anderson, the Mayor of Liverpool, has more power in Liverpool than Andy Burnham. Maria Eagle is a Liverpool MP.

What's that supposed to mean jamila ?
What was in your link!

I thought it may have been Andy Burnham who made them remove the Sun but when I looked at your link ddil I realised it was the Mayor of Liverpool and Maria Eagle (although no doubt other Liverpool MPs et al were equally incensed).

What's that supposed to mean, Jalima?

Don't you think we marry/cohabit with people who hold the same political views as ours? I would never have had a relationship with someone whose political stance was different from mine, so my ex and I were always going to vote the same way. It could be that many women vote the same as their husband because they agree with him.

Ah, the Mayor and Maria Eagle

Andy Burnham probably put them on a bonfire.
I will look at your link and see if I was right

No, I just knew that anyway, I think I posted it on another thread a few weeks ago, I think about Hillsborough.

You're not a closet Mirror reader, are you?

The Mirror has the whole story....

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-removes-copies-sun-liverpool-8922894

You were right.

Ah! Well spotted, Jalima!

djen was the Labour party conference held in Liverpool?
If so, that would be why any copies of the Sun would have been removed, not for anything in it this week but for their disgusting coverage if the Hillsborough disaster.

@JessM

How about claiming that cutting benefits for the working poor and disabled 'supports' them to find more hours/better paid work, as Iain Duncan Smith and Damian Green have claimed? If that's not hypocritical, I'd love to know what is.

In what way are they hypocrical? A tad sanctimonious, but hardly hypocritical.

There's nothing wrong with being a landlord, as long as you don't rip off your tenants. I'm a private tenant and my landlord is a sweetie. Nor is there anything wrong with wanting the best education for your own children while campaigning to improve education for all children.

Labour MPs and supporters don't have to behave like a monk and wear a hair shirt.

Married for 40 years to my father, my mother always voted Tory as he did. Married to my lovely stepfather for twenty-two years she voted Labour as he did. I don't think she had a clue about any of the policies or philosophies of either of them

Yes, I do JessM. They're all tarred with the same brush but the far left are the most hypocritical! I'm certain some start off thinking altruistically but they get sucked in or they give up and get out!

You don't think the tories are hypocritical when they claim to care about poorer people and say things like "We're all in it together" ?

I think there's also a tendency to vote in a way that's loyal to your heritage. People from a long line of Labour voters, for example, may stick to voting Labour because they imagine being disowned by their family and their ancestors turning in their graves if they put their X in the enemy's box on the ballot paper! I'm not sure that works quite the same in the opposite situation. High profile people from a privileged background make up their own mind and don't care who knows it if they vote Labour e.g. Tony Benn (2nd Viscount Stansgate). Perhaps they've just been brought up not to be slaves! ?
There's so much hypocrisy in politics, especially in Labour. Michael Meacher and Keith Vaz are hardly representative of the ordinary working person with their multiple London houses bringing in income. This site:
londonist.com/2015/07/is-your-mp-a-landlord-in-london
lists 17 Labour MPs who rake in money from London property. Yes, there are way more Tories on the list but they're not hypocritical about it. Here's another link about left wing Labour MPs and private education:
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2178770/Do-I-say-dont-I--The-hypocrisy-Left-education.html
(Yes, it's the Daily Mail but it's still true!)
No wonder some people find it hard to decide how to vote.

At least these people vote. Theirs a lot that can't be bothered. I'm whats known as a voting voter, and that's for everything. Just can't make up my mind. My mum used to tell my dad that she voted the same as him, but she just kept the peace.

Well I took it as an general indication that many women thought politics was "men's stuff" - as to the subsequent behaviour one can only speculate FarNorth
Elysium - the people we marry when we are young!!! Did you get rid in the end?
My first H was very strong in his opinions, nobody could have been more anti-private-education. Now, having had a daughter in his 60s, he sends her to private school !

This reminds me of a time many years ago before my ex-husband left, he was always involved in local affairs ?, running committees, coach of football team, PTA, etc. Always out 7 nights a week whilst little socialist wifey, looked after children, home, worked full time, (you know, the stuff that goes unnoticed!) Then a number of locals asked him to become a local councillor, I did all the leafleting, phone calls, arranged meetings.....blah blah! He then came home one night and said.... " oh by the way, I was asked what my politics were, who was I aligneed to? What shall I tell them? What am I? Not wishing to pigeonhole him or label him etc. I asked him what he believed in, what philosophy, aspirations, or hopes he had for his community and the greater populace? What difference would he make by helping his community? Ha! He said " I haven't got a clue what you're talking about" !! I rest my case....how did I manage to marry such an idiot? He was only doing all these 'good deeds' to become well known and attract women! Say no more!