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whitewave Sun 02-Oct-16 07:58:30

The 1972 Act that enshrined the EU law into UK law is to be repealed. The existing EU laws will remain and get repealed as necessary in future.

That will of course very much depend I assume on the negotiated settlement with the EU.
No other EU law will now enter UK law.

Jalima Sun 16-Oct-16 12:29:30

news.sky.com/story/boris-johnsons-secret-remain-article-revealed-10619546

Interesting!

So he was rather like many people who were 50/50, undecided, then finally decided one way or the other.

durhamjen Sun 16-Oct-16 12:27:24

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/16/secret-boris-johnson-column-favoured-uk-remaining-in-eu

Jalima Sun 16-Oct-16 12:25:46

durhamjen I read somewhere that he spent a weekend holed up in Devon with his sister (Remain) and dad (Remain) whilst he dithered over what to do.
I thought perhaps he had written two 'essays' on pros and cons to help him think it through and came down on the side of Leave (presumably despite what his sister and Dad advised!).
Has he published the article, or has someone got hold of it?

durhamjen Sun 16-Oct-16 11:53:20

Have you seen that Boris wrote an article for the remain side two days before he abandoned ship?
He obviously didn't believe in all that money for the NHS either. I wonder who promised it to him - Farage?

Ana Sun 16-Oct-16 09:49:24

We haven't Brexited yet. Still got the same EU bills to pay.

whitewave Sun 16-Oct-16 09:19:16

I see that the NHS is being told that there will be no more cash.

Oh!!!! There was I naively awaiting the extra cash promised from Brexit.

whitewave Sat 15-Oct-16 17:10:48

Gosh what fun

petra Sat 15-Oct-16 17:06:26

thatbags please please please can we have more of your humour on the politicle threads. We really do need it. I'm begging you, I'll even pay you grin

Jalima Sat 15-Oct-16 17:01:30

I'm just as concerned about the NHS in England and Wales
If the NHS in Wales is in a mess it's because they have a Labour administration there in charge of it thatbags smile

Waiting lists are longer than those in England.

thatbags Sat 15-Oct-16 16:38:21

Most of my family live in England.

thatbags Sat 15-Oct-16 16:31:31

Oh FFS, dj, don't be so humorless! I'm just as concerned about the NHS in England and Wales as you are but I can still laugh at an odd phrase. I can understand your not understanding the joke initially (if I put my mind to it) but to persist in misunderstanding when what is being laughed about is presented to you on plate as having nothing to do with the NHS but with an oddly phrased remark is just bloodyminded miserableness.

Ana Sat 15-Oct-16 16:03:33

I don't lived in Scotland...

durhamjen Sat 15-Oct-16 16:01:33

www.konpdurham.org.uk/?p=362

The footprints march against closures.

durhamjen Sat 15-Oct-16 15:58:39

Easy to laugh when you live in Scotland and do not have the Tory onslaught on your NHS.

My local hospital is having its last ward closed, and it will probably not be too long before the whole hospital is closed. It's the one where Simon Stevens started his career and was pictured saying that he wouldn't close cottage hospitals.

Laugh away.

Ana Sat 15-Oct-16 15:46:17

That's the picture that came into my head when I read ww's post too, thatbags. Didn't bother sharing it...smile

thatbags Sat 15-Oct-16 15:41:47

pre....

thatbags Sat 15-Oct-16 15:41:29

Trust you to take it seriously, dj. I was not, of course, laughing about hospital funding problems or any kind of NHS worries. I was joking about the expression "hospitals falling over".

It's allowed. As are attempts at light-heartedness during onslaughts of doom and gloom.

I'm also laughing, at the moment, at my success in lredicting your response smile

durhamjen Sat 15-Oct-16 15:32:59

It may not be as funny as you think, bags.
Once the hospitals close, they sell off the sites.

www.patients4nhs.org.uk/propco-expanding-owner-and-manager-of-nhs-infrastructure/

thatbags Sat 15-Oct-16 14:40:03

Watching hospitals falling over could be quite an exciting spectacle, especially the incinerator chimneys. Will there be lots of huffing and puffing before they fall over? I've never seen a really good demolition, wolves and pigs notwithstanding.

durhamjen Sat 15-Oct-16 14:30:49

eepurl.com/ciSupr

There are campaigns all over the country about STPs. If you can't go, you can help fund someone who can

nhap.org/witney-by-election-hustings-if-you-want-to-hear-the-truth-about-the-nhs-invite-the-nha/

Even in Cameron's constituency the NHS is in trouble.

whitewave Sat 15-Oct-16 14:10:12

There is talk of whole hospitals falling over especially in the next couple of years.

durhamjen Sat 15-Oct-16 12:23:07

To hell with the NHS as well, then. Try not to become ill over the winter.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/14/no-extra-money-for-nhs-theresa-may-tells-health-chief

Theresa May says the NHS should be treated like the Home Office or the MoD. They had cuts and didn't whinge about it!

daphnedill Sat 15-Oct-16 02:09:01

I agree that we need to build more social housing - of course we do. Not only would it provide housing, but it would provide work.

The trouble is that housing in the UK is a classic case of market failure, which is why the state needs to intervene. The market dictates rents and landlords will get what they can. I don't agree that housing benefit is pushing up rents for most housing, because there are plenty of potential tenants who will pay. The real problem is a supply one, which is why rent caps won't work.

The situation is likely to get worse, because the fall in sterling is pushing up opportunities for foreign investment.

Nobody is talking about 'fault', but we have a situation where taxpayers are paying for people to live in accommodation which is too big for their needs, while those who need family-sized accommodation are forced to rent privately or with friends/relatives and are effectively homeless. It's an ineffecient use of public resources and not fair.

The petition was about pensioners in social housing. Ironically, they're the one group which is still protected. The real poverty is being experienced by people of working age on low incomes or unemployed, but nobody seems to care much about them.

Eloethan Sat 15-Oct-16 01:01:39

Why, instead of saying private rents are now ridiculously high, do we say that social housing rents are too low? The introduction of Housing Benefit (instead of building council houses) has, I think, created a system whereby landlords are charging far more than they could have done if this benefit did not exist.

We need to build more affordable social housing. Private rental rates are now so high that renters are barely able to afford essentials like food, heating and transport. This is not the fault of social tenants - it's the failure of governments to recognise that while they allow the social housing sector to be depleted, private landlords can demand extortionate rents and, unless rent controls are brought in, this will continue to have an adverse effect on families - and not just low paid families.

Jalima Fri 14-Oct-16 13:30:22

The Welsh Assembly still provides a 'Mortgage Rescue Scheme', which has been abolished in England.

Private rentals in Blaneau Gwent are available from about £300 - £400 pcm.