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I haven't spoken to any refugees recently trisher. Maybe the young man to which you refer might have been disappointed to be sent to the NE while he was processed and that was why he wished he could go home. Might have been a different story if he had been sent to a wealthier part of the UK.

As far as girls are concerned the families often feel that the fate they will suffer if they are sent away is similar to that they will suffer if they stay. And given the cases of child abduction, rape, and people trafficking that we know go on who is to say they are wrong?

I saw the photo of the translator (or at least, one of them) and it was clearly captioned.

Have you spoken to any refugees? I talked to a young man from Sudan he was devastated and missed his family but said he would almost certainly be dead if he had stayed. He was seeking asylum and had been moved up to the NE whilst he was processed. He wanted to go back but couldn't, he wanted his family to join him but knew they probably wouldn't be able to. It is a sort of hell and no economic benefit would make up for the heartbreak.

Because it seems to be only males that have the chance to be "saved" and the girls are left behind to suffer whatever.

But there are older children 14,15,16,17 and there are older children 32,33,34,35 etc. I don't want to sound spiteful but some of these cases are really very suspicious.

What on earth has that got to do with it gillybob?

One of the photos used was of a translator not a refugee by the way.

Lets face it non of these countries have got reputations for treating boys and girls equally have they?

I would imagine older children are easier to process, more likely to speak English, more likely to answer questions, more likely to have kept their passports/papers. Sometimes young children are difficult to interview anyway never mind ones traumatised by war. We should just have said all children under a certain age can come in without being cross examined.

Is it that trisher or is it that its easier for the males to get away?

We haven't taken any girls though have we? If there are unaccompanied very young children surely they should be a priority and foster homes found for them?

Males are sent away first because they are most likely to be killed, and they are expected to send for the rest of the family as soon as they can. They then lose touch, their family are killed or they can't be located and the boys are alone. Girls are kept with their families for protection, but also girls would probably be veiled and not want to be filmed anyway so not such a good photo opportunity. If one was of the conspiracy theory mind one might think this first group had been deliberately chosen to cause as much outrage as possible.

Maybe because they all seem to be older males that have come? I don't know.

I don't think its anything to do with height trisher my cousins son is over 6ft but he looks like a 15 year old.

Do these "children" have to attend school? Wouldn't you want to be sure that the 14 year old was indeed 14 and not in his 30's?

But what about the younger ones? Why do we only seem to be taking older, male teenagers?

Whilst I appreciate it is rather difficult to tell whether someone is 14 or 18, surely it is quite easy to tell whether someone is 14 or 38? I have to say that looking at some of the photos there are more than one or two that look older than my 36 year old son!

Still can't understand why there are no girls among them.

The whole policy is disgusting. My son was 6ft tall at the age of 14. I wonder what he would have been classed as? Luckily he grew up in a safe country and didn't need to find a safe place to live. I don't care if these are young men in their early 20s, if they have family here who are prepared to care for them they should be allowed in. It doesn't matter if they are from Afghanistan, Sudan, Syria or Yemen or anywhere else all have seen countries torn apart by war whilst they were growing up and we have a duty of care towards them.

Disgusting suggestion that inaccurate X-rays used to check ages of these kids. Disgusting that David Davis is promoting this.

The kindertransport turned a lot of people away namely adults who were sent straight back to the concentration camps.

That is why the UN maintains refugees must be accepted.

That is why the brexiteers want to make their own rules. Good luck to them! Turn all away, just keep a few who are medically trained.
it disgusts me to read about it.

Had to laugh at the attention-grabber on the front page of the Sun today though -

Migrant 'children' look Forty

Slight exaggeration, I feel!

It's very unfortunate that very young children have been over looked and are still in the soon to be demolished Calais camp, one little Afican boy had lost his mum and didn't look much older than 8 or 9. I do think some (not all) of the newly arrived migrants look adult. Having had two boys I'm well aware that there are a few years into early teens where voices break and facial hair starts to sprout, I even remember one of my sons had a friend who grew a full beard at 15 and then complained when he was challenged on buses over his eligibilty for a child fare, so yes there are blurred lines appearance wise between young to middle teens and what would be considered an adult. I think some pictures I have seen show a facial maturity that would be beyond the twilight years of a teen.

Anyone want to read some good stories about refugees?

www.unhcr.org/uk/no-stranger-place.html

Lots more on this site.

From Amnesty.

Countries like Turkey and Pakistan host more refugees than all EU countries combined. Except for Turkey, no European country appeared among the top ten hosts of refugees at the end of 2014. Ethiopia, Kenya, Chad and Uganda were all on that list.

Within the EU, Sweden and Germany have consistently led the combined EU effort in receiving asylum claims and providing protection. France lags behind but for years has still received more than twice the number of asylum claims received by the UK.

Now Italy, Greece, Bulgaria and Hungary are among those far more affected than the UK.

Note that Pakistan has more refugees than all EU countries combined. So if people from Pakistan want to come here, why not?

Home office figures. In the year ending Sep 2015 590 age disputes were raised against asylum seekers claiming to be under 18.
Of that number 574 were put through screening and 371 were found to be adults, lying about their age - 65%.
So am I and lots of other people wrong to be concerned about exactly who these men are?