Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Yes, when a man who calls Hamas his friends is defended against the chairperson of the all party human rights committee , a woman who knows more about the Middle East than the bestest friend of Hamas does.

Sometimes this thread gets surreal

an American voter when asked his opinion of Trump's recorded conversation on his attitude with women replied - nothing wrong with it, he is just an alpha male .

I realised then talking to that man was no different to talking to Corbynites,

No one I can see on here has posted any words supporting Russia. What is happening is appalling. I wrote about the US jets purely to see if anyone else had read it. However this idea that it is someone else's responsibility to demonstrate and that shouting about this makes you somehow a better person is ridiculous. It isn't Stop The War's responsibility to act as your conscience.
All of the actions of all of the factions involved in this war are disgusting and it is the people of Syria who suffer. As the US and UK consider even more bombing you can only think that the country of Syria is being used as a place for experimenting with weapons and making fortunes for the arms manufacturers. Cut off the supply of arms and the conflict will finish.

Why does Iran never get a mention? It is doing just as much to arm Assad as Putin is.
Not defending Russia. Saying others are just as bad. A ceasefire means everyone, not just Russia.
There was a US drone flying over when the ceasefire was on.
That was a problem as well.

Corbyn has not defended Russia's actions, he has condemned them, but he has also said that intervention by other countries has led to civilian deaths and the countries involved should be held accountable. That said, Russia is deliberately targeting civilians, hospitals etc while the other forces are trying to minimise civilian casualties, so Russia should be condemned in stronger terms. Not that any condemnation will stop them, or the US, or the UK, or any of the other countries involved.

How can snyone defend what Russia is doing

Why did Russia abandon the cease fire agreement

Seems Corbynites can and are defending Russia,to claim America are painting their aircraft the same as Russian aircraft !

What's mealy mouthed about wanting all UN countries to stop arming the people of Syria and to stop bombing Syria?
That means everyone.
Telling Russia to stop and not being prepared to do it yourself will not work.
Are you aware that Russia is dropping aid in parts of Syria?

It shows how mealy mouthed Corbyn is.

But it's Russia that is helping Assad to wipe out the whole of Aleppo! Not the US and not us and not anyone else, how can anyone defend Russia on this?

Except he isn't. He's against only campaigning against Russian support of Assad. He's for campaigning against all countries involved in Syria which shouldn't be - Russia, America, US, etc. He's against arming any middle east countries. Stop arming them and it will be a different situation altogether.

True I suppose trisher, clearly explains why Corbyn is against campaigning against Russian support of Assad

Apparently however much you repaint US aircraft, they are very different to Russian ones and easily distinguishable by experts.

trisher are you seriously saying that US jets are taking to the skies in Syria, painted in RUSSIAN colours, and committing atrocities daily over Aleppo? ( jaw drops in utter anazement that somebody could even THINK that ) Nope....they are Russian jets alright doing Assad's bidding, and it is a war crime! Stop The War only ever want to demonstrate when BRITISH.Troops are involved in overseas action, and them not wanting to condemn Russia says all you want to know about them.

Is it better to demonstrate for something one believes in or to castigate others because they won't demonstrate when you think they should?

Do you trisher , or are you playing - let's take the urine , yet again

True, this must be the reason Stop The War will not demonstrate yes? Rsther like badger culling demonstrations, those who want it stopped demonstrate those who do not remain silent or offer lies to strengthen their true reasons for wanting the culling to continue.

It took from 1959 to 1994 for the anti apartheid movement to finally see the end of apartheid, damn good thing they didn't take your attitude by 1960

Anniebach I find it difficult to square your comments with the feelings anyone who was on the Iraq anti-war march experienced.

Nothing to stop anyone who wants to going to demonstrate outside the Russian embassy if they believe that is what is required,

One doesn't expect every demonstration to be a success surely? One would be most foolish if so would they not? and their principles cause for judgement .

No, it probably wouldn't be even remotely effective, but at least it would show that demonstrators are not just one sided and care about Russian atrocities as much as they care about western ones. At the moment it would appear that only the West is called to account whereas Russia /Syria behave with impunity without anyone appearing to notice, never mind care - why?!

There is evidence that US planes are being painted in Russian colours, apparently it is usual practice and part of the training. Am I wrong to think there may be an ulterior motive? Would demonstrating outside the Russian embassy be effective? I very much doubt it, after all if a democratically elected government can ignore 2 million protesters marching through their capital city and go to war anyway, why on earth should an authoritarian single party state listen to demonstrators in another country?

True Niggly , seems even blowing up an aid convoy doesn't concern them because Russia did it