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Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

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POGS Thu 06-Oct-16 19:48:07

Well this could be interesting.

Rosie Winterton sacked from Chief Whips position and Nick Brown back in the Cabinet again. Baroness Shami Chakrabarti has done very well since joining Labour she is now Shadow Attorney General and Dianne Abbot Shadow Home Secretary, Dawn Butler Shadow Minority Ethnic Communities, Sarah Champion Shadow Women and Equalities Minister and Jo Stevens Shadow Secretary of State for Wales.

It will be interesting to see if any who signed 'No Confidence' in Corbyn can/will be in Corbyn's reshuffled Cabinet Team. Time for 'Unity'?

Anniebach Sun 09-Oct-16 16:55:06

They were banned from the Party , if you have no problem with the likes if these men then again your choice

durhamjen Sun 09-Oct-16 16:46:14

If they are labour party members and no longer members of any other party, is there any reason why they can't come back?

Prodigal son springs to mind.

Anniebach Sun 09-Oct-16 16:43:07

I have explained why I supported him and why I no longer can Jen, most of his policies are Labour policies, I do not trust him , I accept you do , I can assure you that it was not a decision I took lightly . I have supported every leader from Gaitskill on but not this one. I cannot support militants or trots and this leader tried to bring them back in , do you want Galloway,Hatton and co back?

durhamjen Sun 09-Oct-16 16:29:05

One of the whips is in the most marginal seat and wants to concentrate on the constituency. Quite reasonable, I would think.
The other one had a run in with Corbyn earlier in the year, and is trying to make himself the centre of attention again.
Rosie Winterton was offered another position and refused it.

If even John Mann says it's time to get behind Corbyn for the sake of the party, I don't see why you can't, Annie.

Anniebach Sun 09-Oct-16 14:45:21

Apologies, I posted the following on the wrong thread but was quickly corrected

Two whips have resigned over the sacking of Rosie Winterton

whitewave Sun 09-Oct-16 11:52:24

Always the way dj its called spingrin take everything with a pinch of salt unless it's an opinion or straight from the horses mouth.

durhamjen Sun 09-Oct-16 11:43:41

Did anyone else watch Keir Starmer on Andrew Marr?

He is one of the people who have come back to Corbyn's cabinet. He was very sensible and told the PLP they should do their job and get behind Corbyn.
What those who object do not seem to realise is that the more they go against Corbyn, the stronger Corbyn gets among the party as a whole.

What I like about Corbyn's new front bench is that he has two strong lawyers in it.

It's strange how what he said is seen differently. I've just read this on the Guardian website.

'Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit minister, has claimed immigration is too high and called for it to be reduced during the UK’s departure from the European Union, despite the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, ruling out any cap on arrivals.'

He really didn't say that. What he said was that going round the country during the run up to the referendum, he realised that the problem was that we needed to train more people up to do the work where there are gaps. Then employers will be able to employ British workers and not need to look abroad.
There's a different emphasis, and he made that quite clear, twice.

durhamjen Sat 08-Oct-16 16:27:18

An interesting take on the reshuffle.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/07/labour-shadow-cabinet-reshuffle-corbyn

trisher Sat 08-Oct-16 15:18:52

Charitable status is fine providing it is used to actually provide some sort of social cohesion and not to reduce the fees. There was some time ago a very interesting TV programme where children from a local comp did exchanges with children from a public school (can't remember which one) what was very interesting was the respect some of the young people gained for each other and the fact that a couple of children were given school places. I think one of the reasons for such big social upheaval after major wars is that the class distinctions are broken down. The social developments of the 1940s and 50s stemmed from the mixing of social classes during the war, and the recognition of many upper and middle class people that the lot of the working man was unacceptable in a civilised society.
Of course closing the Public schools would be even better, but that isn't going to happen.

Anniebach Sat 08-Oct-16 13:49:21

It is Niggly ?, Mutual respect

nigglynellie Sat 08-Oct-16 13:32:46

It's a good feeling ab. smile

Anniebach Sat 08-Oct-16 12:47:14

Niggly, again we agree ?

nigglynellie Sat 08-Oct-16 12:32:38

I couldn't care less where politicians send their children to school, but it is, as ab says the hypocrisy of politicians like Emily Thornberry that angers some parents and grandparents! Curiously, intelligent men and women (politicians!) are suddenly being steamrollered by their partners into an education for their children that they vehemently disapprove of?! Oh come on, surely that has to be rubbish!!! Charitable status? I don't think so, not in this day and age.

trisher Sat 08-Oct-16 11:53:35

Not unless they really increase the amount of work they do to get it.

Anniebach Sat 08-Oct-16 11:34:53

Should public schools have charity status ?

trisher Sat 08-Oct-16 11:24:56

It can be argued that those who choose private education are in fact doing the state sector a favour because they take children out of the system. The head of my sons'school once said that it only functioned properly because a significant number of children were taken off to private ed aged 8 or 11.

durhamjen Sat 08-Oct-16 11:08:10

Well said, trisher.

Anniebach Sat 08-Oct-16 10:58:20

I don't care which schools politicians choose for their children, but I dislike hypocrisy , I am so against grammar schools but if I wanted a child of mine to attend a grammar school I would find it difficult to accept a politician who opposed grammar schools but chose a selective school for their child . I think Emily Thornberry's statement on her choice of private schools for her children but opposing grammar schools would anger some parents - I want the best schooling for my children and the best schooling for everyone's children

trisher Sat 08-Oct-16 10:31:42

I don't give a Flying F* where any politician sends their kids to school. I do care about having policies that offer a decent education to all children and deals with all abilities. I want to see some solution to the housing crisis where people are unable to buy or rent because of the costs. I want to see real policies that deal with inequality and the working poor. That's what I am looking at not "where did you send your child to school?"

POGS Fri 07-Oct-16 21:19:37

Daphnedil

POGs

"Do you honestly think that people will let Corbyn's decision not send his children to grammar school affect their decision? I'm afraid I don't."

I don't think they will give a fig.

Not sure what you are getting at to be honest.

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 21:07:01

POGS.you obviously would react differently to a lie , your choice

Anniebach Fri 07-Oct-16 21:04:01

Jen, my post claiming you were obsessed with Corbyn was a response to your blatant lie , so your apology please

daphnedill Fri 07-Oct-16 21:01:11

@POGs

Do you honestly think that people will let Corbyn's decision not send his children to grammar school affect their decision? I'm afraid I don't.

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 21:00:02

I agree, POGS.

Annie, I will apologise for saying that you were pleased at the loss of three labour seats when you apologise for saying I am obsessed with Corbyn.

If I lied, so did you.

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 20:56:05

The Rosie Winterton position is interesting. I can't recall there being so much venom when Nick Brown was ousted by Miliband. It was just accepted that it was his right to have his shadow cabinet how he wanted.

Nick Brown was supposed to be good as the shadow whip.