Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Shami has a few hurdles to jump. Pity, because I always had a lot of respect for her.

Yes, what happened to the Green party anyway....is it still around? you never hear about it now
yes, where did the Australian leader go? She did not inspire me at all, least of all with any confidence.
If I ever thought of joining, she certainly changed my mind.

How old will Corbyn be in 2020? 74? I suppose there have been older leaders, at least one could say they are 'experienced'.

Yes, our plumber may even have come back to do the rest of the work that he promised.

I think you're right about this week's PMQs Devorgilla - wonder how much Seamus Milne had to do with that?

And yes, 2020 is a long way off, goodness knows what will have happened by then!

Going back to the OP, I think Shami will perform well for us in both roles although I think she will have to work hard to convince us all of that.

Ana, demands don't always get met though. He may want complete personal loyalty but I don't think he is getting it from at least a small number now operating on or near the Front Bench. We are in the long game now and 2020 is a while away. I posted that I thought he did better on PMQs this week but 'one swallow does not a summer make'. He needs to do that consistently and not just in the comfort zone of the Commons. Time to come out to convince those who did not support him, and the rest of the electorate.

Corbyn demands what he himself is unable to give to the party he joined

Well, I think it's fairly obvious that unless they show anything less than absolute dedication to the Leader they'll be on their bikes - the Party may deserve them but Corbyn demands complete personal loyalty.

Why do people make the assumption that all of the 30 MPs who came back did it to support Corbyn? Some did it to provide the effective opposition on certain topics that the Party deserves. I, for one, am glad that certain people are speaking at the dispatch box on key issues.

Yes, what happened to the Green party anyway....is it still around?you never hear about it now.

trisher has it escaped your notice that none of us Grans 'are involved in genocide in a real war by agreeing with the supply of weapons to Saudi.' We neither agree or disagree....it happens, and all political parties sell weapons to Saudi in this country and in many other countries.We have to leave it to the government of the day, who not only have arms deals but have treaties with other countries around the world.
As you are a pacifist you automatically disagree with selling arms ( and making arms) per se.

I most certainly am not alone Jalima but since the change of leadership there is so much bullying and threats it is frightening, during the Labour Party conference there was a demonstration st the momentum conference calling for deselection if MP's ,not because of the boundary changes even a pea brain knows this has to take place , explains why a minority scuttled back into the militant web , but the majority didn't which explains why there is still not a full shadow cabinet

Ok debate an imaginary invasion and accuse me of collaborating if you wish. I'm not the one who thinks selling weapons to Saudi is OK. I'd rather be a collaborator in an imaginary war than be involved in genocide in a real war by agreeing with the supply of weapons to Saudi.
www.globalresearch.ca/saudi-arabia-committing-genocide-in-yemen/5516665

Yes, durhamjen was a big supporter of the Green Party pre-Corbynmania, we used to get endless 'Green' links.

I don't think you are alone in the Labour Party, anniebach, but if one is not allowed to express a different opinion then that is a truly frightening development.

Strange, really, as Corbyn has not been toeing the party line for most of his political career.

We are allowed to stand up for our beliefs, aren't we,
Yes, but I am rather as I understood you fervently believed in the Green Party djen, so presumably you have moved away from them.

the frankly weird post by trisher saying that if an invading army turned up here, she may prefer their style of ruling to one which is our own.
Well, rosesarered I think people who did that were known as 'collaborators', definition: a person who works with an enemy who has taken control of their country:
They often report on their fellow citizens to the enemy occupying force.

Jalima, yes I live in Wales but --- I am no sheep

Why can't you be like the 30 MPs who came back to support him, realising that he is the leader now.

Yes, why can't you anniebach!
Shame on you for not following the leader and for thinking for yourself.
You will find yourself deselected if you're not careful.
Room 101 beckons.

Sorry, I said I would keep off this thread.

rosesarered I have looked at your posts and wonder which one you would like to debate.
Is the bombing in Aleppo dreadful-of course it is.
Is it terrible that Russia is doing this, Yes but it is equally terrible that Saudi Arabia is doing the same thing in Yemen but with UK supplied armaments.
Would I be willing to demonstrate about the war in Syria? Yes if it also drew attention to the deaths in Yemen.
As far as the post about the invasion of this country was concerned I took the analogy to its ultimate extent. It is highly unlikely that it will happen, given my age it is almost certain that I would not be required to fight even if I imagined I could. It is just weird that people ask such questions when real wars are raging in other places.

Thread title, Annie?

I think we are feeding a need to continue being unpleasant and a need to keep talking about Corbyn,

A good interview here with Ken Loach and his views on the Labour party and politics in general.

www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/15/ken-laoch-film-i-daniel-blake-kes-cathy-come-home-interview-simon-hattenstone

I'm not so sure. There are plenty of Remainers who seem to hate a lot about the UK and especially the way it's governed!

there's little point continuing ab as posts are twisted, misinterpreted, and turned around to fit in with djen and trisher's viewpoints.Since they are the ones , with a wholly pacifist, socialist outlook they will naturally refuse to look at other people's thoughts on things without leaping up to say 'nasty warmongerers, you can't come to my Birthday party!'
Which is a shame, because although I am neither pacifist or socialist I understand their views, but what really amazes me is the intransigence, intolerance of others and the frankly weird post by trisher saying that if an invading army turned up here, she may prefer their style of ruling to one which is our own.Have to hope that was ajoke.

Do you trisher