Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Of course there were well-known Nazi sympathisers, no one could deny that.

But to claim that they could have had any influence to counteract the rise if they'd changed their minds is ridiculous.

I can't believe you said that, Annie. Some of the others, but not you!
You think that we should continue selling weapons to Saudi because if we didn't, someone else would?
So you think we should be complicit in what goes on in Syria and Yemen?

That makes me feel quite sick, considering you have told us you want peace.
How could you have marched for peace, and now say that.

Perhaps you should be thankful that scared but brave men and women did the fighting
For you (you said that all war was wrong) trisher if we had lost and had been taken over, your civil unrest wouldn't have got you further than the nearest wall.

If the invaders were instituting proper democracy and perhaps overthrowing a more totalitarian state then yes I might Annie.

If you don't believe there were Nazi sympathizers in this country who looked on the fascists as an organisation that might provide some sort of solution to many problems that's your problem, and I never mentioned Hitler.

Surely they should be heading for Russia?

For some, everything is the fault of the UK.I really wonder why so many people are trying to come here to live.

So you would expect an invading country to go to the ballot box trisher? If you decided it would not damage human rights you may possibly vote for it to form a government?

In that case if you aren't against the UK selling weapons stop moaning about how awful it is that civilians are being bombed. if you supply terrible weapons you are just as responsible as those who use them.

Oh, so now the rise of Hitler was the UK's fault...

Exactly ab each of the other countries would step up munitions making to make up the deficit.

Civil unrest! yeah, that would have worked (not) A thread that could have been contained?Nazi Germany?

I believe the Nazis were a threat which could have been contained much earlier had it not been for some sympathetic voices in the establishment in this country. I wouldn't serve in a fighting regiment I am by no means sure I could kill another human being if I was asked to. Should the country be invaded I would look at the government that was being installed and decide if I wanted to oppose it or not. If I thought it was damaging human rights or imposing unnecessary restrictions I would take part in civil unrest.
See Annie I do answer questions, unlike others.

If one country stopped selling a percentage of arms another country would supply thst percentage

I didn't say Kabul was safe, I said that the Taliban had been removed, which did make life a bit more bearable. We were of course asked to help in Afghanistan by the then President. We do our best to minimise civilian casualties, Russia deliberately targets them - big difference!
If the UK was under threat of invasion, I and my family would choose to fight no question about it, but then we always have.

Nearly 50% of arms sold are from US and UK. The other top five countries are France, Germany and Russia.
That's worldwide, not just to the middle east.
Are you really saying that stopping nearly 50% of arms sales wouldn't make any difference?
Do you have shares in arms sales?

Did you read the link about the civilian casualties, the banned weapons and where the weapons come from.
Amnesty says
The UK, USA, France, Italy, the Netherlands and Spain reported licenses and sales to Saudi Arabia worth more than $25bn in 2015 including drones, bombs, torpedoes, rockets and missiles.

We may not be dropping them we are supplying them.

If the UK and the US gave up selling arms it would make one heck of a difference, roses.

theconversation.com/kabul-is-still-not-safe-but-the-eu-is-deporting-people-there-anyway-66933

Niggly, you implied that Kabul was safe. It isn't, but we still send people back there.
Cruel, isn't it?

Tony Benn was a pacifist but fought in WW2, he enlisted . If this country was under threat of invasion would you support defending it even by the gun or choose occupation trisher? And to reply with - we should hold talks , isn't an option

I don't think roses is the one who's losing the argument...

When you are losing the argument bring up WW2.

If you are a pacifist trisher then you have said what I thought you would say, but it doesn't make you correct.

All war is wrong? war is terrible but not always wrong, as those who took part in the second world war would attest to.

Rubbish!

Try all war is wrong, all the parties involved in the Middle East are guilty of war crimes, all parties are using illegal weapons and killing civilians. Russia is guilty but so is the US, the UK and Saudi Arabia.