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And I don't think anyone said that 'most would have gone under' - where did that come from...?

Some Irish politician on BBC News tonight was bemoaning the fact that the people who voted for brexit gave no thought for how it might affect Ireland and it's people. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for people who have hearts so hard that they don't care that what they have created in brexit may be/will be causing hardship for others.

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I thought that you had two houses granjura one here and one in Switzerland, and you visit between the two.
Ana's comment was certainly not vitriolic ( a much over used word by posters on here) nor was it despicable, and nobody is 'frothing at the mouth' ( that's weird.)

oh yes Petra- I am truly grateful for that-and not complaining per se and fully aware a holiday of a lifetime is just that, a holiday- even if we have been waiting for it for many many years. I've been saving for it for 10 years- for OH's 70th- as he nearly lost his life twice due to his extremely long and stressful working hours. But that is fine ... and not important- you are so right.

There are ways and ways of saying such things- and I'm afraid the way it was said tonight was just beyond the pail and sad.

I'll definitely survive - and you are so right too, that most would have gone under and worse, if they'd lost 60% of income. And that illustrates, again, just how lucky I am. Night night.

Look on the bright side granjura you still own 2? properties.

I'm doing nothing of the sort, granjura, what a vivid imagination you have.

Your opinion of me is your own problem, and so is how you deal with the Brexit vote.

I totally agree, and am not complaining about the new kitchen or the holiday of a lifetime - at all. It was to illustrate that we are indeed getting on with it- even though ...

But Ana, you are truly showing your really nasty, unpleasant side. Anyone who loses 60% of income through no fault of their own, after a lifetime of working very very long hours to the point of losing your health and making massive sacrifices, is entitled to say it is truly disappointing. We can hold on, so far- but not sure what will happen if the £ keeps dropping and we end up on 30% or less of income- as we have committed ourselves. As Mamie, we did plan for fluctuations and changes- but 60% is hard to fathom.

Nasty, vitriolic and truly despicable. I can see you frothing at the mouth- not a good sight.

I can see loss of new kitchen and hols is disappointing but hardly deprivation! Having never had or wanted either of these things I suppose I see it from a different perspective. My SIL lives in France. When they went there ten or so years ago, the were very aware that a hicup in the financial world could adversely affect them, so bearing that in mind, they sensibly kept/let their bungalow in the UK. Now, they are in the process of moving back to the UK, and doing holiday lets with house in France. It'll take a bit of sorting, but yes, they're up beat and getting on with it!

Why? Because no-one is actually entitled to the holiday of a lifetime, or a new kitchen?

Is this what 'getting on with it' is all about? Everyone having to put up with the pain caused by something they didn't even want?

Mine's in the right place, thank you MaizieD.

When someone complains that they've had to cancel their new kitchen and a holiday because of Brexit, my sympathy evaporates...

Good god, Ana. You're all heart, aren't you.

Oh dear, poor you granjura.

Honestly, I've never known someone complain so much about their lot - hard luck if the referendum vote didn't go your way. At least you have property in the UK if you reluctantly have to move here.

Ah yes, getting on with things here too. Cancelled new kitchen and trip of a lifetime (his 70th and our 45th) - but no matter, we are getting on with things.

Having lost 40% of income since we moved here, and now another 20 since the Referendum - getting on with it and not panicking is not easy- but we won't be sunk- but we won't be silenced either.

I'd like to see you, petra, getting on calmly with things if your household budget was cut by 60%...

By the way, I am 'getting on with things'. Everyone is 'getting on with things'. Not heard of a single person taking to their bed and refusing to leave it because of brexit . Doesn't mean that I can't 'get on with things' and question what's happening at the same time. Remainers can multitask y'know ....

Yes, I'm delighted to hear of Hilary Benn's appointment, too.

Very well said Day6 fortunately, many people feel as you do.

Day6 always writes exactly what I feel.
I asked my next door neighbour who is from Lithuania what she felt: she said, what is the problem? there is no problem.... As Day6 said, most people are just getting on with their lives.

No reply, no answer and no apology either. Ah well...oink oink oink

I suppose so...'la Brexit' would probably sound too frivolous!

Well it does sound quite manly when you say it out loud Ana

Getting on with what???!!!! day

The anxiety is being felt by business thus the downward pressure on the pound.

I am awaiting the appearance of le hard Brexit and le soft Brexit on the telly.
At least I have the vocabulary to respond to the daily interrogation.

Sexism!!!

I am delighted about two things this evening.
1. Hilary Benn has been appointed as Chair of the Select Committee on Brexit, thus (imo) ensuring proper scrutiny.
2. The noun Brexit has been designated as masculine in French, German and Spanish (but not Italian).