Steven Woolfe MEP leaves Ukip

i didn't mind so much the broken promise on tuition fees, which I'd seen as a bit of a nonsense from a party who'd never be in power so the promise was meaningless. My real issue with the lindens remains their support for the bedroom tax, something they abandoned the minute the coalition ended.
Like you, I wish the libdems had left Cameron with a small majority and joined other opposition parties in keeping the government in check. Still, we are as they say, where we are ?

Errr, no, niggly. I don't wish anything. I don't really care how posterity thinks about Theresa May. Her performance so far hasn't been strong and she was a terrible Home Secretary. To be fair to her, she's on a hiding to nothing with Brexit.

I agree with you, Iam64. It's a shame he's seen as selling out to the Tories. With hindsight, I wonder how much he regrets it. The Tories could have formed a minority government and the LibDems could have voted against them, when it suited them. Next year's local shire elections could be interesting. I doubt if Labour will make any inroads in the shires, but the LDs might, given all the cuts to local services.

daphnedill - it's difficult not to acknowledge that the LibDems did hold Cameron's tory government back from some of the even worse attacks on public/health services once the need for coalition had gone. Clegg does know what he's talking about in relation to the EU and was as good a party leader as we've seen in recent years.

Your post ref Mrs May - 18th October.

You wish dd!

Sorry .libs, boring was the wrong word, he just doesn't strir the listener .

I most certainly don't think my party's leader talks sense rosesarered

Nick Clegg has been a revelation in recent months. He is a very good speaker, even if you don't agree with him. He is possibly the only MP who really does know what he's talking about with reference to the EU. Ironically, he's guaranteed a job, probably for the rest of his working life, as a negotiator.

Tim Farron does talk sense. As does Nick Clegg. I am not a LibDem voter. One shouldn't blindly believe what their 'own' political party says but keep an open mind.

That wasn't a post to you personally Varian btw.

It's funny how your own political party leaders 'make sense' while all the rest spout rubbish, isn't it? It's a little something I have noticed.

Annie I don't agree that Tim Farron is boring but I am a Libdem so I would say that. Tim talks sense. Most of the media's favourite politicians -Farage, Boris, George Galloway, Gove, etc talk rubbish.

Yes Ana, for the very first time I have problems, I have decided I will not canvass , this would be dishonest when I have no trust in Corbyn , have cavassed at every election for fifty years , telephone and door knocking in several constituencies , feel so sad about it , have thought of voting Plaid Cymru , but when it comes polling day ?

Exactly, Annie - I never thought anything else!

Although you're going to have difficulty voting Labour in a general election if Corbyn's still leader, aren't you?

Not that we were suddenly going to turn Tory Ana, it was a lighthearted response to my lighthearted post, it's all so gloomy why not some lightness

Although Iam64 did say she agreed with Annie about TM, which would indicate a certain degree of approval!

OK Iam64. I understand. It's sometimes difficult to detect irony in a forum.

Her record in the home office is abysmal, she even failed on her own terms

daphnedill, I don't think we do forget she's a tory. It's a bit of sisterly irony and clear reminder that we are not, whatever we may be, ever going to vote tory.

Iam, I have four siblings ,three have left the party , a nephew told me his little sons hamster would make a better leader !

Teresa May does make me want to throw things at the tv and Farage is a monster Johnson an idiot in fact I give up with thevlot of them

How on earth can you forget that Theresa May is a Tory? I agree there isn't much of an alternative, but I suspect she will go down in history as one of the most incompetent PMs ever. Her record as Home Secretary is not positive.

yes that's a good typo anniebach - I wonder though, what will happen now that Steven Woolfe has made a complaint to the police.
Anniebach, I think we're doomed because I find myself agreeing with you about Theresa May. One of my sisters keeps reminding the other sisters that - "she is a * tory you know".....

I guess you meant pleasant ~lol~. I agree with you.

PS. Sorry to pick you up on the typo, but it amused me.

I forgot her , she is peasant and interesting to listen to