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Should Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie be funded as full time Royals?

(90 Posts)
shysal Tue 01-Nov-16 14:41:26

Some consider them a bit of a joke. What do you think?

merlotgran Tue 01-Nov-16 17:53:11

I think Prince Eward's profile will rise when the Duke of Edinburgh dies because he will inherit the title and take on his duties and charities.

Sophie has grown into her role of 'supporting act' but their children are still very young so it's far too soon to think about official duties for them and in any case Prince Charles has made his views on a slimmed down monarchy very clear.

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 17:20:25

I think Edward and Sophie do quite a lot of royal duties, but when it comes to their children, No.

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 17:19:31

or Hollande or Sarkozy

I like the concept of having a Head of State who is above politics.
HM is highly respected around the world (probably more so than by some in this country).
She may have political views but keeps them strictly under wraps.

I was thinking of buying DS a helicopter so that he could get to work and back (it's a long way) but he is not keen on flying.

Christinefrance Tue 01-Nov-16 17:16:04

Just read that the Countess of Wessex is also looking for royal roles for her children. Should be the immediate family only, I think Prince Charles is right.

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 17:12:56

Um as you are new here (I think) paddyann perhaps you have not seen previous threads about the monarchy.
I for one am not fascinated by the Royal Family but think they are better value for money than a president and all that entails and all the agony of presidential elections every few years.
I would rather have Elizabeth than Hillary or Donald.

I am pragmatic and always quite careful in getting best value for money.

Ana Tue 01-Nov-16 17:12:29

Think Charles and Camilla are a bit long in the tooth to be hanging around the Jobcentre...

rosesarered Tue 01-Nov-16 17:10:35

The monarchy cannot be out of touch with the people, as plenty of them do support them and turn out in their millions to see them or have Royal street parties etc.
I am a Rebublican, but you can't bend facts to suit your own perspective, and I think if we had a vote today, to keep or get rid of the monarchy, then the majority would opt to keep them.
I think Beatrice and Eugenie do work ( don't they?) if not, then, yes they should do.

paddyann Tue 01-Nov-16 17:10:08

maybe someone could explain to me WHY they are so in favour of the monarchy even as someone said " a new princess" ? I cant for the life of me understand the fascination with the whole sorry bunch of them.Shaking hands and smiling is not work ...in any ones books .Time they all got REAL jobs and that does include Charles and his wife too and all the hangers on .

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 17:09:08

You can point out whatsoever you like DIORisme paddyannie

I made a jokey post with ' ' around it

Sorry if you took it all so seriously

Ana Tue 01-Nov-16 17:07:27

Well, she's hardly 'waity' Kate any more, is she? hmm

DIORisme167 Tue 01-Nov-16 17:03:58

Jalima I point out that many people heartily dislike the coalminer's granddaughter! Too fond of getting her own way is one comment constantly repeated. With regard to the York girls I would not want to fund them but consider them royal (blood) as Waity Katy can never be!!

paddyann Tue 01-Nov-16 16:54:58

with you all the way Eloethan ,the monarchy is out of its time and out of touch with the people .What kind of "caring Queen" would spend 7 MILLION on a helicopter for her grandson when there are tens /hundreds of thousands of her "subjects" having to use foodbanks or strugling whether to eat or heat their homes.Its a medieval concept in a modern world and its time is running out.Shame so many would rather bend a knee to Lords and Ladies,Knights and Prines than be CITIZENS of a country where you get where you are by merit not birth

Jane10 Tue 01-Nov-16 16:51:04

My question was regarding Queen Victoria's children. I am fully aware that B&A are our Queen's grandchildren. Victoria had many daughters. I presume they were married off to various minor European royals but must have been given large dowries. Where did that money come from?

granjura Tue 01-Nov-16 16:39:32

NO

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 16:38:39

No, I don't bash papers (except when swatting a fly) (and except for The Sun yuk), I was just flabbergasted that the Guardian should say the DM was right for once!!!
It must be the only time!

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 16:37:13

I meant 'I was not absolutely sure of my facts when I mentioned that'
what I posted above means something different to what I meant!

Ana Tue 01-Nov-16 16:36:08

Jalima, I never took you for a DM-basher! shock

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 16:34:33

Well, I am not absolutely sure when I said that.
Does he get an RN pension? Peanuts to him I suppose

www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/jan/12/daily-mail-is-right-to-pursue-prince-andrew-over-his-finances
I do not normally swear but B*** H* - the Guardian says that the Daily Mail is right
shock

Rinouchka Tue 01-Nov-16 16:33:34

No! They should get a job. In the end, like their mother, their connection to royalty will open doors for them. Unjust but true.

Anniebach Tue 01-Nov-16 16:31:40

If andrew is part funded by us who pays him the rest

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 16:25:02

No, they're not funded Elegran; they are funded by their father, who is presumably part-funded by HM from the Sovereign Grant. Their protection finished years ago too.
Presumably they haven't made enough headway in their careers and this would not require a CV etc.
Post applied for: Princess
Qualifications: Princess
Past experience: Princess
Future ambitions: Princess

'And what makes you feel you have the qualifications to be a Princess?'
'My Grandmother is HM The Queen'

'Sorry, we already have a Princess whose great-grandfather was a coalminer and the public seems to like her.'

Elegran Tue 01-Nov-16 16:24:41

OK, I had missed the furore and have now caught up. There seems to be only one person pressing for them to have a more prominent role - their doting daddy. Perhaps he has had enough of funding them himself.

His sugggestion has been decisively turned down and when/if Prince Charles is king it doesn't sound as though he will be adding them to the payroll. No need for us to get too wound up at the prospect.

Kittye Tue 01-Nov-16 16:18:24

Definitely no!

Jalima Tue 01-Nov-16 16:15:15

That's true Cherrytree
They can't expect Fergie to live on fresh air and I don't see anything wrong with earning a living from commercial enterprise - as long as they don't use their royal connections in the advertising of their services!

Eloethan I don't think many people regard themselves as subjects of HM these days.
And, agree with a monarchy or not, there are many people here and abroad who do like to use their services to open or promote their charity or whatever, and there is only so much HM can do - people mention Princess Anne's children but Princess Anne herself carries out more royal visits/duties than any other member of the Royal Family, so she must be much in demand from some quarters (if not from the Republican movement)!

Elegran Tue 01-Nov-16 16:14:21

ARE they funded as full-time royals?