Is the sexual orientation of a judge relevent?

Better democracy. That's what it was always about for me, as I said all along.

Oh look! Some exciting news about a new Google investment in spite of the Brexit vote.

So that sort of thing as well.

Never took you for a Farage fan thatbags and we all hope it turns out well for you.
But you'll excuse us pessimists who think that the "undemocratic" EU protects the rights of working women, minorities, parents etc.
During the referendum campaign Priti Patel (minister for employment at the time) was rubbing her hands in glee at the prospect of leaving the EU and cutting back on employment legislation. Which translates as things like parental leave, holiday pay for temps and many other things that workers in the EU have. And which workers in other democracies don't. In the USA for instance worker's benefits, including the amount of holiday and maternity leave, is paltry or non existent.

Ok Google will have 3,00 jobs in London - not of of them for British workers bTW., that doesn't endorse Brexit. Though of course, 30,000 more civil servants needed most of them in London too no doubt. ( maybe they'll be able to recruit from the EU) .

suzied can you direct me to any articles where it says that Google wont be employing any British workers.
I know for a fact that most of their office fitters are non British but nothing about these new jobs.
I've just read that Tesla ( 2nd largest electric car manufacturers) are considering putting a plant in the uk because of our F1 expertise.

Another wonderful example of wilful misunderstanding, jess. Boy, you're good at that!

After watching The Daily Politics today, it would seem that so far we are doing quite well as a country, employment highest for years, people spending in the shops,
And firms not pulling out of the UK at all.
Certainly not like the dire warnings from the Remain camp in June, an emergency budget if we left, and economy in freefall.So no need for gloom and doom.

Oh, they just can't help themselves, roses...

JessM you must be running out of sensible things to say ( your last post)
And suzied it wouldn't matter if you heard that 200 big firms were taking on masses of workers in the UK, you would still say things like 'that doesn't endorse Brexit'
If Parliament talks down the economy as some on here do, we really would start to do badly.

Dave Rubin gets it, the excitement I feel, the political excitement about opportunities for good changes when ordinary people essentially tell the establishment to sod off. Quit the name-calling and stupid wrong assumptions and think!

Six and a half minutes.

What Rubin says, what Harris says, does not make them Trump supporters. Similarly, nothing I've said makes me a Farage supporter. Nothing I haven't said makes me one either.

thatbags I feel exactly the same.political excitement about opportunities for good changes in the UK sums it up well.

I'm glad someone else gets it, roses. Not that I mind when people don't agree or even don't understand. It's the ferocious glaring across yawning chasms of suspicion and disgust, the total lack of civic empathy and tolerance that knocks the wind out of one.

Theresa May also said today

“...in the past year, employment in [Wendy Morton’s] constituency of Aldridge-Brownhills has gone up by 88,000.”

Theresa May, 16 November 2016

Obviously it was one of those planted questions.

Unfortunately there are only about 78,000 people living in the Aldridge-Brownhills constituency, according to latest estimates.

Around 39,000 people were employed from July 2015 to June 2016. That’s about 4,500 more than the previous year. It’s not clear whether this is statistically significant.

From Fullfact. I don't trust her statistics.

I hate the total lack of civic empathy as well, particularly from the DWP, the NHS, the treasury, the justice department.....etc.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-fresh-blow-for-theresa-may-as-supreme-court-rules-scotland-and-wales-can-intervene-in-article-a7424796.html

The court case about article 50.

Is this where you got your facts from djen?

fullfact.org/economy/unemployment-ten-year-low/
And it’s correct that the unemployment rate is the lowest it’s been for over ten years.
But it can’t possibly be correct that:
“...^in the past year, employment in [Wendy Morton’s] constituency of Aldridge-Brownhills has gone up by 88,000.^

There are still pages of jobs advertised in the Express and Star for that area. Exciting opportunities for anyone who lives there or wants to move there.

Apart from the link in my post above, could you direct me to where Theresa May made her mistake about the Brownhills constituency please djen?

JessM But I also had a woman in her 80s telling me that immigrants were coming "here" to rape and steal so she was going to vote leave. This in a town with - well if they have a dozen "immigrants" including the Chinese takeaway family, I'd be surprised.
I do hope that no-one mocked this old lady as she was obviously quite frightened.
Did anyone offer to go round and make sure she had a chain on here front door and decent locks on her doors or at least get in touch with someone who could reassure her as to the safety of her home?
I am being serious btw.

I see that a certain group of posters still persist in sneering and snide remarks. Think I'll give this thread a miss.

Seeing as 70,000 is going to be the average size of a constituency that the boundaries review is aiming at, and that these new constituencies are going to be, on average, bigger than the current average, surely "any fule know" that number is impossible.
Jalima FFS who do you think would be mocking?
And she didn't seem remotely anxious. Because the immigrants "round here" were nice! Just the ones that wanted to come here were the problem. (The entire Turkish nation etc)

I might have been a tiny bit impressed if Google had announced they were creating jobs in say Sheffield, Hartlepool, Newcastle...... in fact anywhere in the North or indeed anywhere outside of that bubble that is London.

80% new jobs went to foreign born workers. I expect Brexiters are happy about that.

Why should they be?

Well, sorry but it did sound a bit as if you were saying 'oh, for goodness' sake, this old woman in her 80s thinks immigrants are going to come and do something awful to her, how ridiculous is that'.

Perhaps that's not how it was meant.

Foreign born does not necessarily mean not British. Using a phrase like "foreign-born", which includes and excludes no-one knows whom, is deceptive.

I don't think anyone would use the phrase 'foreign born' in this context (i.e. Brexit & immigration related) in such a pedantic way, thatbags. In these threads it mostly just means 'immigrant'.