Is the sexual orientation of a judge relevent?

Pogs I too read the Daily Mail and the Express Just because you read a paper does not mean you subscribe to its editorial opinions/decisions.
I do not feel personally affronted by a political campaign to ask businesses to stop buying advertising space.

That is what a 'free country'is about after all the right to disagree and do what you can to win hearts and minds to your cause!
Of course with the right comes responsibility: to be truthful, to be honest and not to cause personal harm or injury to an individual or a group. Sometimes both print , online and visual media ( and politicians/political groups) forget the responsibility bit!

It reinforces the image they are creating. This image goes hand in hand with the popular Danish concept of 'hygge'

Have you looked at any Lego lately daphne?
It is quite frighteningly aggressive - I commented to DH a few weeks ago before all this blew up about the nasty, hate filled little faces on some of the Lego, all about war and weapons, repelling invaders etc
(see other thread).
DGS and his friends love it.
Scary.

It is odd how "freedom of speech /media" is interpreted depending on what people feel is being said/not allowed to be said!

If a newspaper takes a particular political viewpoint and promotes its views through its reports /headlines etc. and that viewpoint is not shared by some of the companies that advertise, or the companies are lobbied by customers who do not share a media outlets political stance they are perfectly withing their legal and moral right to review their business postion. it is not as if these big cpmpanies are being bullied they are making an informed decision.
I think we will see more of this open reaction to the more right of centre media from businesss, influential individuals etc.

Its a bit like pastor Niemoller's prayer isn't it. They are speaking out on behalf of those who maybe cannot before it is too late and they too are being seen as "part of the problem". Well done to them I say for following their conscience as well as their commercail interests.

I would imagine LEGO will be delighted that somebody is objecting to them taking a stand against bigotry. It reinforces the image they are creating. This image goes hand in hand with the popular Danish concept of 'hygge'.

LEGO is a hugely successful global brand with customers all over the world. I don't think one national newspaper with jingoistic views is much of a match.

LOL oh dear POGS et at, people are just exercising their democratic right to protest. I presume the forces of anti-democracy on Mumsnet have a finger in this sinister pie.
And I'm sure that huge successful companies like Lego are well able make their own decisions about what is and is not good for the image of their brands and their ultimate commercial success. As are the expat billionaires who own certain newspapers able to decide on the extent to which they will shell out to influence UK voters.

One or two posters on here still don't understand what a free press is.

Change the media? That sounds very like a slogan from an old Communist country.

twitter.com/StopFundingHate

Just so you know what it's about and who is supporting it.

It actually says Don't hate the media, change the media.
That's what good campaigning does, changes things.

Nobody is suppressing the Mail. It can go on printing whatever it likes, as long as it is legal.

If people don't like what it is saying they are under no obligation to buy it and if advertisers think that they will lose customers, rather than gain them, by advertising in it they are free to stop advertising. It's a commercial decision, not censorship.

The Official Secrets Act applies to everyone in the UK, whether they have signed it or not. People in sensitive jobs are asked to sign it as a way of reinforcing their awareness of the act.

Maizie d

"Where are you getting the 'suppression of free speech' from, POGS?"

Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

The same group have tried to strong arm JL ( who are not giving in to them.)

Lego are doing it because of a group which is putting pressure on them ( presumably saying they will bad mouth Lego and it's products if they continue in the future to do promotions in the DM)

I am obviously not going to support a company that is prepared to assume I am a racist , hate filled person.

I'm confused. Lego is withdrawing its financial support (i.e advertising) from the Daily Mail because the DM promotes racist and hate filled views. They are not stopping anyone reading it. Nor are they suppressing free speech. Companies have every right to chose where they advertise and consumers still have every right to chose what paper they read.

Where are you getting the 'suppression of free speech' from, POGS?

Exactly, it does seem to be a sign of the times, all this lofty virtue waving.

It is so I will do the same.

I have contacted Lego , not that they will give a tupenny hoot about my e.mail, to tell them I am returning a Lego set I bought 2_weeks ago for my friends granddaughter.

I am obviously not going to support a company that is prepared to assume I am a racist , hate filled person .

I am deadly serious I am concerned at the level of orchestrated politics that is taking place at the moment.

Keep telling people

'What They Can Read'
'What They Can Do'
'Who They Must Vote For'
'Forget Democracy'
'What they must think'

Suppress Free Speech, suppress freedom of choice, suppress a Free Press , suppress, suppress, suppress but when it comes back to bite you on the ass don't be as surprised.

When I watched Alastair Campbell , that well known left wing doyen of truth, trust and twaddle spewing out his rubbish I just had enough.

If you detest the Sun, The Daily Mail express your dislike but when the Rubicon gets crossed into believing you have the sole right to tell others what they can or cannot read then to be honest we have moved into dangerous territory and
authoritarianism.

Is lego on nearly every thread?

Very good advertising just before Christmas!

Yes that is brilliant news. Time all the companies that produce feel-good Xmas adverts stop advertising in feel-bad, hate-promoting newspapers.

Well done, Lego. Now for the others to follow.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lego-ends-advertising-daily-mail-stop-funding-hate-campaign-a7413361.html

Safe house has been redeveloped by Trump.

I've forgotten where the safe house is - can you post the address on here please?

I won't tell anybody else.

Sssh! The geese fly low this Winter.......I shall only say this once,
Meet me at the safe house and before then, talk to NOBODY!

Time for an inner circle of Gransnetters who have signed the Official Secrets Act (yes, me too) who can disclose nothing to each other in a furtive manner?

I still have not been party to any secrets!

JessM re the report in HTEd. TM was at Warwick Uni recently where she was told very clearly how much international students bring to this country. The figures (£14B in this article) need to be made more of in the national press.

Cost of University of Warwick MA's.

MA Education £15,000 + average accommodation £8,500. English pre-sessional course costs £3,090 for 10 week course; living costs, e.g. food, library, internet etc

MA in engineering £22,000 plus costs.

Add in the jobs created for servicing these students and you have an awful lot of money coming to this country and employment for the local community.

If Indian students are going elsewhere it's only a matter of time before others follow when they find they are more welcome.

Time for an inner circle of Gransnetters who have signed the Official Secrets Act (yes, me too) who can disclose nothing to each other in a furtive manner?

Or perhaps the exclusive club will turn out to consist of those who haven't signed the wretched thing.