A bad day for the world

It is clear that Trump is already being reined in - next thing will be demonstrations from oeople annoyed that he has not kept his promises.

Is this why Clinton wasn't elected? Religious USA.

theconversation.com/how-biblical-double-standards-killed-hillary-clintons-presidential-run-68607

But the people who voted for the scrapping of Obamacare were probably many of the people who actually needed it; that's the sort of thing that I don't understand these days. So they can now say 'see, he wasn't as bad as people said'.I obviously don't want Obamamcare to be scrapped, but a lot of people will probably suffer from his other policies who voted against him because they feared for the people who did need it#ifthatmakessense By the way, is anyone else wearing a safety pin?

Alie I think, with hindsight, they may have reined in some of the Tory's worst measures....or at least it seems as if when Cameron had his majority and didn't need a coalition that's when things got much worse.

Just seen the beginning of The Last Leg on Utube...yeah!

I bet that's annoying those who voted for him because he said he'd scrap Obamacare.

sunseeker he is already moderating his promises news today...
the republicans may rein him in. But then I did think that about the LIbDems when we had the coalition, and they didn't have much effect!

Did you watch Arctic Live? Gulags aren't what they used to be. Hardly anybody lives there any more, apart from oil people.

It still should never be described as hysterical
I think in a free society it can be described however it comes across to the person describing it.

Ah well, off to the gulag I go

Sometimes when people are passionate they shout. I don't think she did, I think she is probably someone used to lecturing in large halls and used to projecting her voice. Such things come off well face to face but not on TV, which is very different. It still should never be described as hysterical

Of course, we can't tell from posts whether or not some people SHOUT and therefore think that SHOUTING is the best way to get a point across (it's not)! But the American professor of literature was a shouter, talked over other people, waved her arms around and pulled faces whenever anyone else spoke.

The other American woman had a slightly supercilious sneer on her face all the time and Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh is also off-puttingly loud (and yes, we did turn the sound down)
I think many people are put off listening to the content of someone's answers when the delivery is loud and forceful.

Yvette Cooper was a civilised contrast.

As I used to say to my DC - you will get your point across much better if you don't shout and it is rude not to consider other people's point of view and shout them down.

Yes sunseeker I think you are right.

HIGNFY isn't what it used to be, so haven't watched it for a while, but will find it on catch up.

Ah yes Jalima the dreaded footy ( I went off to the comfort of the conservatory with the iPad and a book.)

Yes, HIGNFY was great last night and Charlie Brooker one of the best ever chairmen. Later on, I watched The Last Leg on Channel 4. It was also a welcome breath of fresh air.

No, must catch up on that
DH was watching football

As a bit of light relief - anyone see 'Have I got News for You?' last night? The funniest I have ever seen, and I have needed a laugh this week.

As I said before, Republicans may have the majority in Congress and the Senate but many of them did not want or support Trump. I believe he will have to moderate or abandon many of the promises he made during the election campaign.

I watched QT this morning after reading the posts concerning hysteria and the panellists.

Well!!!! The programme I watched was definitely not the programme everyone else seemed to watch. The professor of Literature -a democrat and the republican supporter - a psychologist - both defended their positions eloquently and in their own way. The republican was in the minority - in my view unsurprisingly- and was therefore in the more difficult position but as for hysteria etc. Nonsense!!!!!

Thank you for that valuable contribution to the discussion, sillyoldfool

Getting a bit bored with all this left wing hysteria.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/never-expected-see-conditions-gave-9237439

By Harry Leslie Smith.

www.thecanary.co/2016/11/11/the-horrors-of-day-1-in-post-election-america-are-a-worrying-taste-of-things-to-come-tweets/

Apparently there have been 700 attempts to change the electoral college voting system in the last 200 years. It sounds like us trying to get some form of PR.

It is interesting Jalima that the article you use to justify the use of the word 'hystericsl' to describe an outspoken woman is in fact a thesis where the word hysteria describes a form of mental illness. If you are therefore using the word in a medical sense are you then saying that the woman on QT was suffering from some mental illness? I suspect not. I suspect you are using it as a term of abuse as has been done for centuries.