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Palace refurb

(188 Posts)
FarNorth Sat 19-Nov-16 02:53:39

Is everyone okay with the £369m essential repairs for Buckingham Palace, to be paid for by the taxpayers?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38025513

sue1169 Sun 20-Nov-16 09:08:38

The Royals live in Palaces..and the Prime Minister.who runs the country (questionable tho re monthly meets with the Queen!!!) lives in basically a large terraced house...

Skweek1 Sun 20-Nov-16 09:17:53

I'm not actually a royalist, but my menfolk haven't a good word to say for the concept of monarchy - I feel that until they can ensure that a presidential system won't lead to even more political corruption - Mugabe, Trump . . . you name them and I'll show you someone who wants to change rules to become President for Life (possibly Blair would want the job!) better the status quo. But Buck House is, as I understand it, more of a workplace, a luxury office rather than a home, I think we should pay for the repairs.

radicalnan Sun 20-Nov-16 09:19:54

How many palaces does one old bird need?

I only have this one and the roof leaked last night, will have to pay for the repairs myself.............on a pension.

People come here for cheap pants from M&S and to see where the Beatles lived, or the Tate Galleries and loads of other stuff....the Royal family are irrelevant now. We have masses of history to be going on with time they were gone.......

Disgruntled Sun 20-Nov-16 09:50:28

Why has it been neglected for so long? Who is supposed to be responsible for it and how have they failed so miserably?

Tessa101 Sun 20-Nov-16 09:51:06

On my travels abroad the locals always talk about visiting England to see Buck Palace it generates plenty of money as well as being able to go inside for 3 months of the year. Have you seen how deep the visitors are each time there is changing of the guard. Definitely great for our economy.

Alidoll Sun 20-Nov-16 10:00:27

One word - Bulldozer

Where doed all the money that the tourists that pay to actually view the white elephant go to? The wages of the staff showing the folk round can't be that high surely? And the gift shop with £160 Alex Monroe corgi necklaces and £20 boxes of biscuits etc..

So no, I don't believe the public should pay for its upkeep...or can I have my bathroom and kitchen redone too please?

grabba Sun 20-Nov-16 10:13:48

Disgraceful waste of money.
WASPI women having money withheld.
NHS in peril.
People dying for lack of support in ill health and or joblessness.
Heads should be hanging in shame.

Barmyoldbat Sun 20-Nov-16 10:15:13

Sue Townsend book, The Queen and I springs to mind as to what we should do.

Disgruntled Sun 20-Nov-16 10:17:07

Only a tiny fraction of it is open to the public, and only on about 60 days of the year, unlike the White House, which is open most of the year. I've just googled who is responsible and it looks as though it's "The Household" and one man jas just been sent down for receiving large bribes.....

mostlyharmless Sun 20-Nov-16 11:01:09

I'm not really a Royalist, but Buckingham Palace is a state building which houses the Royal administrative offices. There are 700 plus rooms mainly offices and state rooms for visiting VIPs, while the Queen occupies ten rooms there. It is an iconic building, not particularly architecturally attractive, but well known around the world and a major tourist attraction. It is crumbling and needs major renovations for safety and economy.
It does seem a great deal of money, but the Queen herself will not benefit from the refurbishment. It is a long term investment for the country (even more important post Brexit!) even if the UK becomes a republic in the future we have to maintain famous historic buildings. Leave the ninety year old Queen alone!

pollyperkins Sun 20-Nov-16 11:09:03

It belongs to the nation, not the Queen - She owns her own houses/palaces. It is world famous and part of our heritage. It's disgraceful that she has to go cap in hand to ask for repairs which should have been done years ago. It sounds as if the wiring is frankly dangerous. What a tragedy if it burned down!

As for havig a president instead, look at the mess the USA has got itself into!

Iloveitaly Sun 20-Nov-16 11:11:02

I agree WASPI women cannot have our pension but there is money to do repairs to Buckingham Palace. Surely as one of the richest people in the world she should have been doing the repairs as and when needed like the rest of us do. If she was short of money she has enough things to sell or even a loan from her bank like we have to. Oh I forgot she is to old for a secured loan.

Anniebach Sun 20-Nov-16 11:11:26

The monarch can move to Windsor full time

trisher Sun 20-Nov-16 11:13:02

Petition about this
you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/make-royals-pay-for-palace-renovation

Hope all those who have posted about asking Queenie to pay sign it.

Granarchist Sun 20-Nov-16 11:14:37

BP is a public building - it used as a place of business - and affairs of state. It is not a private residence and never has been. If anyone would like to suggest a replacement to be used for state occasions, investitures, meeting and greeting foreign heads of state, go for it. The money should have been spent years ago, ditto for the Houses of Parliament.

Lozzamas Sun 20-Nov-16 11:15:39

I'm with you mostly harmless - do it or loose it - I don't want any of our heritage changed or lost so we must do it. One could argue we should be doing these things before they get into this state, it's only using the money we should have been spending year on year in one lump - although due to us not spending regularly it'll cost more now. I guess the fundamental argument is do we as a nation wish to preserve our heritage- with the costs that incurs or just turn it into a series of horrible flats and hotels or modernise everything with a bulldozer. Personally I'm for preservation - I know that means less money available for me, mine and my locality - but that's the cost of preserving our way of life the way I like it .... I'm game - up my tax a bit.

Anniebach Sun 20-Nov-16 11:15:58

The shadow chancellor supports us paying for it

Anniebach Sun 20-Nov-16 11:19:02

We have St.James Palace, Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle , that's enough heritage to pay for

trisher Sun 20-Nov-16 11:22:16

Preservation doesn't mean leaving things as they have always been. In fact if we really want to look at preserving Buck House it should be given a business plan that will take it through the 21st century and I very much doubt if the present arrangement will. Many other big houses have been saved by making them into tourist attractions why not this one?

maddyone Sun 20-Nov-16 11:33:18

Public building it may be, used by the public it is not. Buckingham Palace is provided by the state in order that the royal family have somewhere to live in London, and a palace from which they can entertain visiting heads of state. The rest of the building is a workplace dedicated to management of the royal family's affairs. In short, this is the headquarters of the monarch. Our monarch is the richest woman in the world, there is no reason why she should not pay to put her own house in order, and to pay herself to make the workplace of her staff safe and comfortable, just as other employers have to do.

granoftwins Sun 20-Nov-16 11:56:25

May is just say that the National trust is a charity. It gets no money from government: the money it receives is from membership and visitors' entrance money. Some properties were given to the Trust with an endowment but not all. The Trust wouldn't touch Buck House with a bargepole. I wish our Royal family was run like the Dutch one!

Jayh Sun 20-Nov-16 11:59:58

Visitors do include Buck Palace as a must see landmark when visiting London. I am one of those visitors and have twice paid my money to see inside the Palace in the same way that I have visited other major attractions. It is only opened for a few weeks of the year, though, and I think that only came about to pay for the repairs needed for Windsor( which I have also visited). I am all for repairing faulty electrics and installing solar panels. That seems sensible to me. The monarch does not need to live there so why not open the Palace all year round to paying visitors and raise the money that way. No one is compelled to visit.
The grounds are fabulously huge. Sell off an acre and that would fund the whole refurbishment.
In terms of grandeur, I would say that the palaces of St Petersburg and the Kremlin take some beating.

chrissie13 Sun 20-Nov-16 12:10:24

Mind, they do have their online Buckingham Palace shop to raise a bit of extra money, with the sale of fluffy corgis among other things!!

mags1234 Sun 20-Nov-16 12:17:31

I want to update my own house, not pay for a Royal residence to be upgraded. The queen works very hard indeed, do do a few of their family, tho many many hangers on, but she is worth millions! No, I am happy for my taxes to go into education and national health services, and for ex servicemen, but I am mad! I am a tax paying OAP and this is infuriating me. My personal opinion.

Sheilasue Sun 20-Nov-16 12:18:05

I had a conversation with my H over this situation, why has it been left so long, couldn't they have just done parts of it over the years the queen has been residing there. Like all of us with our property we refurb over the years. Would seem more sensible to me.