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thatbags Sun 20-Nov-16 07:41:16

Oh joy! Oh wonder! Tony effing Blair is trying to get on the Remoaner train to derail Brexit. "The PM's a lightweight and Corbyn's a nutter so I'm back".

How jolly! Everyone will be so pleased. We love you, Tony. [fingers down throat emoji]

felice Thu 24-Nov-16 13:51:29

I have been staying well out of these debates but just thought I would post this.
7 years ago I had to go to Scotland for 4 weeks. I was having weekly blood tests at the time(anti-coagulent). I went to see my Mothers doctor with my Health Insurance card and an attestation from my insurers promising full payment of all medical expenses.
It was refused I was told they would register me with the practice, 'so I didn't have to pay anything'.
I got the feeling they just did not understand how to claim the costs back.
Not a huge amount I am sure, but it all mounts up.

whitewave Thu 24-Nov-16 16:11:40

So 2.4% shrinkage in the economy forecast by and accepted by the Chancellor as the result of Brexit.

Not miles away from what was forecast by the remainers pre referendum.

Brexit is swamping absolutely everything the Treasury is doing.

whitewave Thu 24-Nov-16 16:16:33

Or, perhaps they are using Brexit as an excuse for their useless economic management. I wonder which it is?

rosesarered Thu 24-Nov-16 17:01:27

Hard to do a forcast for the next five years ( so it could well be wrong) I think it would have been more spot on to do one for two years and then do the next two years once we have actually left the EU.So much change both in Europe and in the US to come, makes forcasting hard.

rosesarered Thu 24-Nov-16 17:02:33

That's interesting Felice and chimes with what a consultant was saying on radio 4 the other day.

Ana Thu 24-Nov-16 17:05:45

Maybe that's what somebody on here meant when they said that perhaps we should stop being so 'British' about things!

rosesarered Thu 24-Nov-16 17:11:04

Yes Ana the ' oh, that's alright old chap' attitude!

durhamjen Thu 24-Nov-16 17:43:07

fullfact.org/health/health-tourists-how-much-do-they-cost-and-who-pays/

The most up-to-date figures I could find because the government says it's too difficult and costly to collect figures under FOI requests.

durhamjen Fri 25-Nov-16 17:22:45

Well done, Boris. Looks like it's going to be a hard Brexit.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/25/boris-johnson-clown-eu-britain-foreign-secretary

thatbags Fri 25-Nov-16 18:39:54

I wonder when people will stop publishing that picture of BJ stuck on a zip wire. I'm sure it was his fault he got stuck and he only did it for the attention. [Sarc emoji]

I'm sure no other politician has ever been on a zip wire [sarc emoji 2]

How about grans? I have, several times. Never been stuck though so obviously I'm not a clown.
Anyone else?

JessM Fri 25-Nov-16 20:26:38

I would have thought impossible to do forecast for 5 years. It is very hard to do a 3 year forecast for a very modest company with a few dozen employees in a fairly stable economic environment. A whole country when we don't know whether in five years time we will be in the single market or outside in the wilderness with years of trade negotiations ahead of us.? Quite apart from not knowing what Trump will do and how that might affect interest rates.
Apparently if Trump starts borrowing lots of money to build infrastructure then interest rates will rise around the world and then of course our personal and national debts will take on a very different complexion.
The only sensible thing the PM should say at this point is "Thank you for the referendum - and I'm sorry you went to all that trouble - but now we have looked at the practicalities and the cost and complication of the leaving process I've concluded that we really can't afford it at the moment."

JessM Fri 25-Nov-16 20:32:18

Will we ever know what was in the PMs' mind when she appointed that arse as Foreign Secretary. If her plan was to give him enough rope to hang himself in the role, then has she not noticed that he has now done so.

durhamjen Fri 25-Nov-16 21:47:34

Bags, there were four photos of Boris. I wonder when people will stop focusing on that photo in particular?

Cunco Fri 25-Nov-16 22:34:19

JessM: If any PM said ...

"Thank you for the referendum - and I'm sorry you went to all that trouble - but now we have looked at the practicalities and the cost and complication of the leaving process I've concluded that we really can't afford it at the moment."

...I suspect he or she would succeed where Guy Fawkes failed.

I would imagine at least half the population would lose what faith it still has for Parliament and that might open the door to extremism of all sorts. I don't think many here would want that outcome and I would fear it far more than Brexit.

Ana Fri 25-Nov-16 22:38:07

grin

Well said cunco!

durhamjen Fri 25-Nov-16 23:31:39

You think Brexit hasn't opened the door to extremism?

durhamjen Sat 26-Nov-16 11:36:26

You couldn't make it up.
What did Farage think would happen?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-brexit-march-cancelled-supreme-court-far-right-article-50-a7439246.html

thatbags Sat 26-Nov-16 12:48:30

MrBags has just told me that, according to the latest YouGov poll on Brexit, 68% of people should go ahead with Brexit. More info and more statistics on the YouGov website.

thatbags Sat 26-Nov-16 12:48:48

people think

thatbags Sat 26-Nov-16 12:49:35

Drat and double drat!

...people think the government should...

durhamjen Sat 26-Nov-16 13:03:09

A Yougov poll is self selecting, so 68% of those who chose to respond to this particular poll, not 68% of the general population.

thatbags Sat 26-Nov-16 13:23:40

Yes, that is correct and it is why I mentioned the YouGov website for more info about the figures they give.

petra Sat 26-Nov-16 16:13:49

Jaguar Land Rover to invest in new plant in the midlands. Where was Theresa May a few weeks back, India. And people said it was a wasted trip.
Admittedly they want £450 mil infrastructure from this government. Small change in the big scheme of things.

Welshwife Sat 26-Nov-16 17:03:38

They will no doubt use the steel they produce in their Port Talbot plant. Good news if it comes off.

JessM Sat 26-Nov-16 17:44:47

After a few weeks as a YouGov member I left in despair at the badly designed, repetitive questionnaires, thinking that that members who stuck it our must seriously need to find something else to entertainment.
JLR will have been planning this for years and the PM dressing up in a gold sari (and offending people with her immigration policy) is unlikely to have anything to do with it. They have a a network of successful plants in the Midlands and a modernised workforce .