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An oath on British Values?

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yggdrasil Mon 05-Dec-16 07:34:51

Latest proposal is that all immigrants should be made to take an oath to abide by British values before even coming in to the country.
What would those values be? I doubt you could get much agreement between those of us born and bred here.
England, Scotland, Wales, NI? North, south, east, west?

Mair Sat 07-Jan-17 23:30:12

"Why do you dislike immigrants and their decendents so much mair?"

I dont but I dont need millions of them living here either. What is the benefit of that?

I dont believe unregulated large scale immigration is good for Britain, and I dont want to see the ethnic diversity and diverse cultures and languages of European civilisation homogenised, still less with the rest of the world.

Dont you think conservation is a positive force? If a butterfly or squirrel is worth conserving then so is a culture.

Jalima Sat 07-Jan-17 23:15:10

Some of the natives still run round half naked shock
as I posted on the other thread about Aldi customers going round topless.

Penstemmon Sat 07-Jan-17 22:44:17

Why do you dislike immigrants and their decendents so much mair?

My father, my brothers and I have all made a positive contribution to GB/UK. We all have contributed via tax & NI. My dad was a civil service lawyer, one brother & I teachers the other brother a lawyer.

How have I and my family disadvantaged 'natives'?? Some of my best friends are natives wink

JessM Sat 07-Jan-17 22:24:24

You a Nigel fan Mair or is he much too liberal for your liking?

Mair Sat 07-Jan-17 22:11:03

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Ana Sat 07-Jan-17 21:22:51

Surely one more reason for the UK to leave the EU, whitewave? grin

whitewave Sat 07-Jan-17 21:14:41

I am surprised that Farage took the job as radio phone in host, as when he resigned as Leader of UKIP, he said that his chief joy was " not having to deal with low-grade people every day"

Oh dear Mr Farage, once again having to get down into the gutter to earn a crust? You have had to settle for 10th best I suppose as the Trump job failed to materialise. Still you have a divine stablemate in Katie Hopkins, who has caused her newspaper to apologise more than once for her vindictive lies.

Still one thing we can be thankful for is that it won't interfere with his MEP job. We can still be sure that part of our payments made to the EU are being paid for sod all. Perhaps someone will phone in and ask him how he has the bare faced cheek.

rosesarered Sat 07-Jan-17 21:04:42

Neither are doing anything wrong.......grin just wondered .

POGS Sat 07-Jan-17 21:02:32

Not now roses!

I was making a point that Farage was hardly doing anything wrong.

rosesarered Sat 07-Jan-17 20:28:36

He hardly ever agrees to be on tv in the UK.

rosesarered Sat 07-Jan-17 20:27:39

Really, on Iran State tv? Why is he, for heavens sake?

POGS Sat 07-Jan-17 20:14:21

Farage on LBC,
Corbyn on Iran State TV

What are these politicians like hey, no principles.

Let me think now why is one classed as a git the other a god, hmm.

Nope, no idea.

Mair Sat 07-Jan-17 19:27:40

Good for Farage then that he's flexible and willing to do "all kinds of jobs"! He may still have a job but its not going to be too much longer as an MEP.

Why is Ed unmployed? Its not as if he'd struggle to find work if he wanted it!

Penstemmon Sat 07-Jan-17 19:26:04

Farage's poor attendance as MEP in th E parliament is surely not supporting British Values as he is sticking 2 fingers up at the notion of British representational democracy. He of course believes in a plebicite democracy.

JessM Sat 07-Jan-17 18:52:14

Nigel Farage has been touting for all kinds of jobs in the last few weeks. Forgetting, maybe, that he has a job, as an MEP. However as the second most idle member (well the most idle member if you discount someone who is sick) then he's obviously looking for extra money on top of a salary most would consider fantastic along with expenses he is entitled to for secretarial support, office space etc.
He was recently lamenting his lack of money. He thinks he is poor apparently.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-moans-hes-poor-9426304

Ed on the other hand is out of a job, un-em-ployed and other than any domestic duties has no reason not to do a bit of work, here or there, of any kind that is offered.

Mair Sat 07-Jan-17 15:56:59

Didnt know about that! Thanks for the heads up Firecracker!

Where so ever I may be
I can listen to LBC!tchgrin

Firecracker123 Sat 07-Jan-17 15:40:01

You can download LBC app and listen on your phone, Nigel Farage show starts Monday 9th 7pm Mon to Thurs.

Mair Sat 07-Jan-17 13:17:58

WW said
Still it is only London, he is hardly speaking to his core constituency.

Youre a bit out of touch. LBC is nationwide on digital

Jess said
And it seems the lovely Farage has, in his desperation to make more money, taken a job as a shock-jock on London radio.

I suppose you were hoping he'd be unemployed!

Are you also mocking Ed Balls for his 'desperation to make more money" by appearing on Strictly Come Dancing?hmm
Hypocrisy rules.

Nigel has been an occasional presenter on LBC for a long time and clearly pulls a large audience pro and anti without having to resort to insulting playground name calling like his alter ego James OBrien (although he too pulls 'em in)

MaizieD Sat 07-Jan-17 11:02:47

He should suit America down to the ground. Perhaps he'll be such a success that he really will p* off and live there.

Anniebach Sat 07-Jan-17 10:27:52

He has also been signed up to an American tv show

whitewave Sat 07-Jan-17 10:17:14

Still it is only London, he is hardly speaking to his core constituency. I would guess he won't get very far in his attempt at division politics

JessM Sat 07-Jan-17 09:16:14

And it seems the lovely Farage has, in his desperation to make more money, taken a job as a shock-jock on London radio. He knows the very basic salary from the EU (for which he does virtually no work) is time limited now and is on record as envying his peers, who are all stinking rich. No new years honour and, as yet, no definite consultancy work for El Trump.
I sincerely hope that people will not ring in to argue with him, thus depriving him of more opportunities to show off and say outrageous things without a smidgin of responsibility.

durhamjen Sat 07-Jan-17 00:57:54

That was just in one year, by the way. He has received nearly half a million from the CAP since 2011.

durhamjen Sat 07-Jan-17 00:52:07

Quoting Paul Dacre, eh, the man who hates liberal Britain, and the EU, but has taken £88,000 from EU funding.
The Nigel Farage of the newspaper world.

Eloethan Fri 06-Jan-17 23:17:13

But it is said that there is now a wave of "anti establishment" feeling across the country. Doesn't the establishment contains those institutions which are referred to - the Royal Family, the church and the army, to name but a few?

People increasingly complain of being powerless, of having their wages cut and their hours increased, of the distance between their lives and those of politicians and other establishment figures, of being held to ransom by energy and transport companies, of the inequities of the market economy, etc. etc. It is only by examining and challenging the way things have traditionally been done that these issues can be addressed. If all political thinkers and academics just toed the establishment line, we would never have a pensions system, an NHS or legislation to prevent all kinds of discrimination.