The cost of Brexit for us; the ordinary people

Perhaps they managed to swallow their distaste for certain aspects of the EU in favour of the advantages it can offer as a powerful trading bloc.
Interesting - so certain aspects of the EU are distasteful then - even to Remainers?

That is what put me in a quandary as to what to vote as I was very undecided.

Funny that! Because I see those who voted Leave as bullies with their constant name-calling and simplistic arguments. Playground behaviour at its worse!

ab. I don't think anybody has adopted a pack mentality. The EU is a group and one member has shown them two fingers. It's no wonder they now want to discuss the way forward without the member who has decided to leave. The British seem to want to have their cake and eat it. Tough! Nobody owes us any favours and wes houldn't expect any.

That's what the remainers do on here. No wonder they think this behaviour is ok. EU bullies, acting like kids in the playground. Sooner we are out the better.

There was never any chance that the EU as a whole would be motivated to make it easy for the UK to leave. Why would the Union shoot itself in the foot?
No way of knowing whether they were being chilly to May or whether it was a selective bit of video, and it doesn't matter does it really. Journalists do that all the time - remember the invented newspaper story about Corbyn doing a jig on his way to the cenotaph?
if anyone would like to hear a measured and mature comment from the Shadow Chancellor on what is going on at the moment:
www.facebook.com/realmediaUK/videos/1170208613068676/

Daphne, do you really consider adopting a pack mentality is the correct behaviour for what you class mature statespeople?

I'm afraid I think that's cobblers, niggly.

They're not awful people. They're mature statespeople doing their jobs. There's nothing 'brave' about leaving the EU. We don't live in the Middle Ages, where an individual was seen as chivalrous, if faced a mightier foe.

Even the Greeks weren't masochistic enough to leave the EU./cx. And I note that the Swiss have avoided having to leave the single market by, horror, ignoring the result of their 2014 referendum. Perhaps they managed to swallow their distaste for certain aspects of the EU in favour of the advantages it can offer as a powerful trading bloc.

Leavers reducing Brexit to the status of a playground tiff is ridiculous, but I suppose it does away with the need to face the very real difficulties of extricating ourselves and the possibility that the ultimate solution satisfies no-one.

'Showing other countries what will happen if they leave!!' Wow, that's scary dj, with overtones of Dictatorship. You're right, we will have to show great bravery when up against such awful people! I guess other less brave countries will be suitably cowed and subdued (like Greece) when they see our ghastly fate. Not sure that tvere One thing though, if the EU is such a wonderful benign all embracing organisation, why would any one want to leave it?!!

It would appear that she left the dinner early of her own volition I thought she wasn't invited to the dinner so had to leave after the meeting.

Pink wafer biscuits!! A victim of Brexit - Well, every cloud has to have a silver lining! Have we seen the last of them?

So their ignoring of May was a warning - this is what you get if you leave our pack , I detest pack mentality
Me too anniebach, it made them look like a group of bullying schoolchildren.

And May is the PM of remainers too

Consequences of our vote ? Rubbish . Pack mentality is vile

Maizie: My view is that an amicable divorce is in the best interests of the UK and the people of Europe because we should remain allies and co-operate where it makes sense to do so. Antagonising and punishing countries can have bad consequences, as history shows.

It seems that the EU is taking a different line so as to discourage any other country from stepping out of line. Of course, the EU is within its rights but I think it a very short term view, particularly for an organisation that faces severe economic and political challenges, some of its own making.

When there is threat to the East and hostilities in the South, it should be common sense to have a powerful friend to the West.

They say, in foreign policy, he who is not your enemy is your friend. It would be better if the EU and UK were friends. I am not sure if that is a hope or a pipe-dream but it would be better for all if it were so.

If that had been me I'd have picked up the handbag, told the troops to get their coats because we're leaving and that means leaving the eu now!
Then I would have informed the grey suits to give me a call when you grow up because you need us more than we need you.

We got together with other EU countries so we could have greater bargaining power with the US, Russia, China, etc.

Now we don't want to be part of it. So that's what happens when we are on our own in the 21st Century. We are no longer a dominant force anywhere. That's what people voted for. That's what's happening. We've been told often enough by Brexiters to get over it. Now we are seeing the consequences of our vote.

Just those few seconds of film must have had more impact than any speech Maizie

Oooh, Jess. And I thought I was being subtle

Annie I'd be interested to know how much that image was deliberately chosen to suit an agenda. Would be interesting to see more footage.

it will surely have those who voted to leave believe they made the right decision

Interesting that an image overrides millions of words pointing out very real problems and difficulties. (like that infamous Leave bus!)

Apologies MazieD my attention to detail is rubbish. Help me out by using "smileys". please

I agree Maizie , I am a remainer but this talk of pack behaviour being a warning and seeing May ignored has me doubting my decision , it will surely have those who voted to leave believe they made the right decision

I am afraid that images such as May being apparently ignored just serve to reinforce Leavers' perception that we're well out of it.

However, it doesn't bode well for Cunco's hopes of an amicable divorce.

So their ignoring of May was a warning - this is what you get if you leave our pack , I detest pack mentality

That made me laugh, niggly.
She didn't scaremonger because she stayed out of it, even more than some people think Corbyn did.
If she didn't want the flak from Brexit, she shouldn't have stood for PM. I think she knew what she was letting herself in for with that.
What's wrong with the pack instinct being alive and well? That's why we joined the EU in the first place, to be part of the pack, to be part of a large group that had power. Unfortunately 52% of those who voted no longer want to be part of the pack. So what do they expect? Why would the rest of the pack be helpful? They want the other countries to remain, and therefore are quite within their rights to show other countries what will happen if they leave.

I think she can expect courtesy, particularly as it wasn't she who instigated the referendum, it wasn't she who arrogantly implied that remain was in the bag, it wasn't she who scaremongered one way or the other during the campaign, but it is she who is representing the will of the electorate of the country she is PM of, and to whom she has a duty to do her best by. For that alone she deserves to be treated with respect. Her treatment was on a par with Greece, how painful and humiliating was that for that poor country, and if I had any remote qualms about leaving this awful institution, yesterday certainly squashed them. Incidentally, I'd be feeling exactly the same if any of our politicians from any political party were to be subjected to such arrogant rudeness; European ones too. The pack instinct was alive and well, unbelievable, childish and certainly unhelpful.

I have no idea what she expected, has she made any reference to It?