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Biggest political hypocrite 2016

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durhamjen Wed 28-Dec-16 00:14:19

These are some nominations.
Who would you choose from the list?

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trisher Thu 05-Jan-17 10:31:34

So if we ignore Corbyn who hasn't been nominated who would people vote for? I'm going for Daniel Hannan. The lie about the NHS dominated the referendum and it is something he doesn't even believe in!

Anniebach Thu 05-Jan-17 10:23:23

Would be interesting to hear if the Corbynites here agree with Momentum who has put their support behind McClusky , they claim Corbyn needs McClusky

Anniebach Thu 05-Jan-17 10:19:56

Wonder who wrote the letter to the I, grin

Ana Thu 05-Jan-17 10:17:47

At least Attlee was elected as PM - it doesn't seem likely that Corbyn ever will be.

Anniebach Thu 05-Jan-17 10:17:27

There is no need for any campaign to discredit Corbyn, he is more than capable of doing it on his own

Eloethan Thu 05-Jan-17 09:55:26

A letter in the letters page of The I yesterday said, regarding the campaign to discredit Corbyn:

"The same tactics were used against the only radical leader Labour had in the last century. Clement Attlee's policies, which brought so many benefits to ordinary people, were ridiculed by a right wing press. Plus ca change?"

nightowl Thu 05-Jan-17 09:30:53

Just did it dj. It appears I'm not trying hard enough! Only halfway to being a trot.

Maybe it's the horse that did for me. As my lovely friend told me years ago when we were teenagers, horses are a very bourgeois occupation (although she wasn't quite as polite as that) grin

nightowl Thu 05-Jan-17 09:23:02

She's great thanks dj smile

I might do your quiz when I get back from her. Sanity in a sorry world sad

Anniebach Thu 05-Jan-17 09:04:16

I have already have looked it up grin .

There has always been divisions in the Labour Party, and I can go back to Hugh Gaitskill without having to search the Internet or read blogs .

Eloethan Thu 05-Jan-17 09:02:31

Well well Monica - you're starting to sound like a journalist.

The term "extreme" is one that has different meanings to different people. I expect Margaret Thatcher would have described activists in the anti-apartheid movement as "extremists" but some people would have seen it differently.

rosesarered Thu 05-Jan-17 08:54:36

Nobody can argue with that Monica grin there will be a stampede to look up fissiparous now .

M0nica Thu 05-Jan-17 08:45:31

The quiz seems to aim at identifying Stalinists rather than Trotskyists. but the subtleties of identifying different factions in Communism/socialism has always defeated me.

Left or right, the more to the extremes in political beliefs people are the more fissiparous they seem to be.

durhamjen Wed 04-Jan-17 23:23:59

tompride.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/are-you-a-trotskyist-take-this-short-quiz-and-find-out/

How's your horse, nightowl?

Anniebach Wed 04-Jan-17 23:23:04

Wonder why,

durhamjen Wed 04-Jan-17 23:15:33

Corbyn wasn't on the list.

M0nica Wed 04-Jan-17 21:50:51

... and remember the discussion is limited to a discussion of hypocrisy, not of anything else, so discussing Corbyn's hypocrisy is not to suggest other politicians are, overall, better or more worthy individuals, just that whatever their failings, and they may be much worse, they are not particularly given to hypocrisy. Corbyn is just very noticeably prone to hypocrisy where others aren't.

Anniebach Wed 04-Jan-17 21:13:02

Suppose it's just coincidence that the only one to be challenged is the one most critical of Corbyn .

Ana Wed 04-Jan-17 20:38:18

And this thread really shouldn't be counted as a serious political debate - it's just a silly aside!

Isn't it...? hmm

Ana Wed 04-Jan-17 20:34:20

And as the OP says 'here are some nominations' (no indication of where that 'link' comes from...)

Surely we can all feel free to add our own?

rosesarered Wed 04-Jan-17 20:27:35

Grrr, iPad, 'it's what this thread is about.'

rosesarered Wed 04-Jan-17 20:26:42

Politicians are fair game.It's what this thread is about.

Anniebach Wed 04-Jan-17 20:23:06

Just the usual defend the leader regardless

POGS Wed 04-Jan-17 20:04:37

The OP says 'Biggest political hypocrite 2016 ' and asks posters who they would choose/nominate, it is not about 'valid political arguement' .

As for Corbyn , ye gods , have any of you read what has been said of other politicians on other threads?

Threads go off at a tangent, it's what happens.

trisher Wed 04-Jan-17 18:40:07

So which of these is about his work as party leader, and which presents a valid political argument Annie?

I think Cirbyn has a big problem , he gets shot if wife no 2 because she disobeyed him over choice of school.

He left his studies at a college because he disagreed with his tutors course

He invited the IRA to Westminster just weeks after the Brighton bombing, this was so insensitive .

nightowl Wed 04-Jan-17 13:21:36

Quite trisher. And I agree about the lack of any real political debate. These threads are becoming boring.

But I stand by my point about personal attacks, or rather snide comments, between posters. I've been the subject of them myself though not on this thread. I'm not a delicate little flower, I'm well used to personal abuse and also to strong debate both within family situations and outside of those. I just don't see a need to seek it out on a public forum.