Think you'll have to wait for a reply from durhamjen, POGS - she's gone on the razzle for New Year's Eve already!
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Biggest political hypocrite 2016
(234 Posts)These are some nominations.
Who would you choose from the list?
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durhamjen
Do you know the answer to my earlier question, 12.36?
' I think I've asked you before, not sure, but is the link you have provided again to 'Skawkbox' (with a k )the same organisation as CNBC 'Squwakbox' (with a q)?'
One minute I think it is definately connected to CNBC but another side of me thinks it is a copycat name.
Your latest link says this:-
'The address belongs to a relative of Mr Farage’s wife, Kirsten. Don’t be confused if it comes up as the address of a school – it is the registered office address of a swimming school (the school and pool is at Sachsenweg 78 in Hamburg), registered to the address of the owner.'
So is the owner of the 'swimming school' 'swimming pool' without doubt a cousin of Mrs. Forage and now ' presumably ' implicated in the , as you imply, fraudulent application?.
And Shami wanted the Lords abolished just like Corbyn does, or should thst be - did
Hot on the heels of her enquiry (generally acknowledged as a whitewash) into anti-Semitism within the Labour Party, Shami Chakrabarti received a peerage from Jeremy Corbyn despite his having pledged not to make any nominations to the Lords. He preached against awarding peerages and then awarded one, so my first nomination goes to Jeremy Corbyn.
Now a Labour Peer, Baroness Shami Chakrabarti is campaigning against grammar schools while sending her son to a highly selective private school where fees cost £18,000+ per year. So Shami, if as you say, state education and comprehensive schools are good enough for the rest of us - why not for your child? That's hypocrisy and she's my second nomination.
durham I was just saying to add the evidence as some posts seemed to be just putting forward names! HNY
Sorry, but there's no evidence that he used that address for a passport application, although it could well be the address of a relative of his wife.
The original email refers to a charge. There is absolutely nothing to say whether Farage was bringing the charge or whether it was a charge against him.
skwawkbox.org/2016/12/31/heres-the-address-farage-used-for-his-german-passport-application/
I do hope it is true and that he gets 5 years for it. It will make the EU a safer place.
I agree with you, POGS (and I do read German).
There is no reference anywhere to Farage. Not only that, but 'Strafanzeige' (the heading on the first email means 'criminal charge'. It's dated 30/09/16. Not only is there no reference to Farage, but there's no indication whether the person is making the complaint or defending it.
Much as I despise Farage and would love the story to be true, I don't see any evidence that it is.
Putting a woman into the Lords for doing a few weeks work now claiming other parties are making a mockery of the honours system is not it seems hypocritical
durhamjen
I think I've asked you before, not sure, but is the link you have provided again to 'Skawkbox' (with a k )the same organisation as CNBC 'Squwakbox' (with a q)?
I do hope your link to the Farage story doesn't turn out to be a 'Fake News' story . I am not saying it is, it could well be true for all I know. It's just that I think there was a post on GN if I remember saying the Pope backed Donald Trump and that was proven to be 'Fake News'.
I think I will agree with the comments that follow on in
your link asking for proof before I make a judgement call.
'I’m confused. Where’s the proof that those emails relate to Farage?'
'Enjoyed many of your articles, but the evidence for this one seems to be missing. I see no reference to Farage in the documents you provide. In fact, are you even sure they’re related to a dodgy citizenship request? My German is non-existent so I could be missing something.'
'The article claims, and I quote “The ongoing police case puts beyond doubt the question of whether Nigel Farage made an application for a German passport.” Well, no, it doesn’t. I read German and a) there is nothing in the documents cited in the article linking Farrago to the case (indeed he is not mentioned at all) and b) in this most Europhile of countries, were this to be the case, it would be all over the German news. Which, believe me, it is not. All the two emails confirm is that a case was opened on the 30th September 2016 (which could actually be someone’s budgie being stolen), and that a query is being forwarded from the Press and PR department (which could also be about budgie rustling) to another division – PK24 – of the Hamburg police. You claim “The evidence for the content of the formal police complaint was in the conversations with the source. That can’t be rendered photographically and a condition of the conversation was anonymity for the source”. So, effectively, we have to take your word for it, and the documents you cited prove absolutely nothing whatsoever. Until you actually link the case number to a document with Farage’s name on it, I will feel free to ignore this . PS I am not a Kipper, but false news will do our cause in debunking UKIP no good whatsoever.'
Yes I may well be proven to be too cautious but I think we know all too sensibly to consider carefully who/what we read and that includes links , perhaps even more so in my opinion.
As this story broke and died a death in August I would suspect this new 'evidence' will get scrutinized by the media , time will tell I guess.
So many to choose from.
As of this moment in time I will choose any politician from any party that calls another party 'Making a Mockery ' out of the Honours System when they have done exactly the same.
Truly a Cross Party hypocrisy scenario but some do take the biscuit with their Messiah Complex and ease of saying one thing and doing the other but that's politics in a nut shell I guess.
Farage wins.
skwawkbox.org/2016/12/30/proof-farage-applied-for-german-citizenship-and-hes-under-police-investigation-for-it/
I hope he gets five years for it.
Not exactly political (though the person in question did have strong political views), but Mark Steel's article in The I today certainly gives one example of hypocrisy.
Reporting the death of George Michael, the Sun's headline was "You were something special, George".
Apparently, though, GM had previously complained about the Sun calling him a poof and a pervert, and when he was speaking out against the Iraq War the Sun's headline was "RIP George Michael's Career: 1982-2002".
Another bit of hypocrisy.
George "we're all in it together" Osborne.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-highest-paid-richest-mp-parliament-how-much-earn-uk-politicians-a7498696.html
Trump and Farage are winning with 30% of the vote, Daily Mail next with nearly 23%.
Hannan is last, probably because people have forgotten who he is.
It does say that in the link in the op, Penstemmon.
Trump and Farage were for saying that they represented the ordinary people from inside a gold-clad lift.
Farage ( Sorry, J52) has added to it by telling people to ignore the Archbishop of Canterbury in a tweet.
I think it is important to say which hypocritical action the nominee is guilty of. It is not enough just to dislike their politics.. the list would be too long!
Who has said 'do not fib' and then fibbed the most?
Well said Granny23,Nicola Sturgeon is without doubt one of the best politicians of our time.A lot of my English friends and family wish they could vote SNP ,in fact one who lives in Dorset is set on standing for the SNP at the next local elections there.Sad to say there are Scottish unionists who would rather back "british " parties who have done damn all for Scotland for decades.As the last election showed with 56 out of 59 seats going to the SNP ,most dont believe what Grannypiper and City 84 do,and thank god for thet!
Oh well! That solves the Brexit problem. Cameron will press the button and run for the nearest bunker. Never mind the rest of us - we won't be around.
2017 isn't looking too good.
Cameron allegedly can't be bothered with details or strategy. He said and did things to get people off his back.
My vote is still for Farage for pretending to be 'a man of the people' but being nothing of the sort.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/29/no-10-david-cameron-nato-job-theresa-may
Lined up for the head of Nato, eh?
I agree, daphne - Cameron wasn't a hypocrite, he was just stupid, out of his depth.
Boris Johnson would win my vote.
Unfair! Cameron isn't on the list. I disagree that he was a hypocrite. The Tory brand was written on the tin and people voted for it.
I would agree with you GrandmaMoira but I have blocked all reference to a certain person from my mind on the basis that he dererves no acknowledgement!
As it is the biggest hypocrite, not just the worst politician, Farage is worst.
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