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whitewave Wed 25-Jan-17 18:22:23

Paul Nuttell is according to the poles is 10% ahead in the Stoke bi-election, so I thought I would look at some of his beliefs. I was astounded at how similar they are to Trumps.

1. Privatisation of the NHS - this has been taken from his website because he needs the votes. Privatisation of the NHS doesn't attract votes.

2. Wants a referendum to vote on restricting woman's rights. He is anti-abortion, and believes that there should be a ban on adverts for family planning and abortion.

3. Burka ban. In all public buildings.

4. Against banning discrimination against gays.

5. So he believes in placing restrictions on Muslim belief/culture, but is against any restriction to Christian beliefs.

6. Thinks sexist comment are OK, and against placing restrictions on these type of comments.

No wonder he was so thrilled when Trump won the election.

POGS Thu 16-Feb-17 11:45:54

daphnedil

" I am not aware that anybody sets an agenda for threads, but I do object to a certain poster trying to order others to make comments on something which possibly doesn't interest them"

By saying "a certain poster trying to 'order others to make comments" it is obvious you mean myself.

I did not 'order' anybody!!!. I said this on Wed 15-Feb-17 21:02:05:-

" I find it interesting so little response has been shown as to how posters viewed Labours candidate tweets so I assume he is not seen as putting a foot wrong by some. Either that or there is little to no interest in the by election but more interest in sticking it to UKIP."

I then mentioned the debate on Sunday Politics between the candidates for anybody genuinely interested to view it on iPlayer. I would have left it there but I then got a load of 'personal' abuse which typically got quite hostile and I gave as good as I got back.

The fact I posted on the Stoke by-election after 'so many' posts that have discussed it and the candidates by those who have practically told me to bugger off the thread and start my own is frankly nothing more than laughable.

As for your repeating :-

" I didn't try to stop anybody posting about him, if they wanted"

I don't think durhamjen saying "You could start your own thread, POGS, about the Stoke by election. Then you can talk all you want about the Labour candidate" and you jumping on the band wagon saying " Have you started the new thread yet POGS?"
was not lost in translation to many posters.

I find it so telling I actually only posted 'twice', yes 'twice' about the Stoke by-election yet I am being admonished for doing so by posters who have mentioned it numerous times.

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 11:13:37

Yes, it was your mistake.

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 11:13:03

Yes, the OP started off stating that UKIP is ahead in the polls. Since then, it has been shown that this was a 'junk poll'. It was conducted by Leave.EU on its Facebook page and has been consigned to the rubbish bin by anybody who takes such things seriously.

I am not aware that anybody sets an agenda for threads, but I do object to a certain poster trying to order others to make comments on something which possibly doesn't interest them. The 'UKIP leader' has himself provided plenty of newsworthy issues over the last few days to fill up a whole thread.

PS. I suggested a reason why people had possibly not commented on Gareth Snell. I didn't try to stop anybody posting about him, if they wanted - but you know that, don't you?!

Jalima Thu 16-Feb-17 11:10:10

Oh, I thought it was obvious
My mistake

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 11:06:42

Errmm, Jalima, you assume too much. The posters who upset me haven't left! They're still here, making ascerbic comments. hmm

Ankers Thu 16-Feb-17 10:57:16

When poster A says something that Poster B knows is correct but does not like, Poster B[I am not talking any particular poster], chooses to use pedantics or bad language or both as their way of retorting, on many occasions.

I actually do not know anyone in real life who uses pedantics.

Part of the gransnet bubble again.

Jalima Thu 16-Feb-17 10:46:31

Typed before a lot of other posts appeared but not posted as someone came to the house
smile

Jalima Thu 16-Feb-17 10:43:10

As far as I can tell, the OP started off by saying that Nuttall is 10% ahead in the polls for the Stoke bi-election so it would be reasonable to discuss why which would include ideas on why the Labour candidate appears to be failing in what was a Labour seat.

Is it possible for everyone to do as another poster suggested and remain polite?

daphnedill I presume you like politeness as I think you were upset recently by another poster who has now left and I don't think that wind your neck in is really polite in anyone's book.

MawBroon Thu 16-Feb-17 10:39:31

Oh FFS lighten up!

POGS Thu 16-Feb-17 10:38:56

So let me get this straight MawBroon.

You are another one who has posted about the Stoke by-election before myself but now you too think it is not appropriate for others.

You raised the list of the other candidates which obviously mentioned Gareth Snell.

You asked " I wonder what the turn-out in Stoke will be like? I (for once) wouldn't blame anybody muttering "a plague on both (all?) your houses".

Do as I say not Do as I do , again.

MawBroon Thu 16-Feb-17 10:19:19

Well I think we should stick to talking about Paul Nuttall. Such an interesting man with such a varied career

POGS Thu 16-Feb-17 10:09:33

daphnedil

Which one?

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 10:02:35

I hope they don't vote for the Flying Brick. I hope they take their responsibilities seriously and unite to keep a nasty piece of work out of parliament.

Anniebach Thu 16-Feb-17 10:01:26

On Wednesday Daphne said on this thread - my money's on labour losing Copeland to the conservatives but retaining Stoke Central,

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 10:00:42

Who cares about Corbynites? Nuttall is a bully and a liar. I think it's a shame that he's been brought down by his lies. I would far rather people saw through his political "promises". He's a charlatan with no coherent policies and possibly a fraudster. This is his fifth attempt to be an MP and the people of Stoke seem to be waking up to the fact that he sees Stoke as a convenient step in his career. I wouldn't wish him on anybody.

Gareth Snell doesn't seem to be a strong candidate. If he wins, he will have been very lucky. I sympathise with the voters of Stoke, who aren't being offered good choices.

I find it very disappointing that you would put your obsession with bringing Corbyn down ahead of imposing such an MP on any constituents. It really makes me wonder what kind of values some Labour supporters have.

Ankers Thu 16-Feb-17 09:57:46

POGS

Speak about the labour candidate! grin

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 09:52:05

I didn't tell her to be quiet. I suggested a reason why the focus is on the UKIP leader and not on other candidates in the Stoke Central by-election. Despite attempts at derailment, even you have to admit that the UKIP leader has hardly been out of the news over the last few days.

rosesarered Thu 16-Feb-17 09:44:18

Totally ridiculous that POGS is being told to be quiet about Labour and the Stoke election.....half the posts on here are about it!
I hope that the Stoke residents read up on all the candidates including Snell, then they may well opt for The Flying Brick.

Anniebach Thu 16-Feb-17 08:47:44

And Nutthall is a gift to corbynites,

Anniebach Thu 16-Feb-17 08:44:21

If Labour wins Stoke , and seems they will, it will be due to Nutthall

Anniebach Thu 16-Feb-17 08:41:36

'Wind your neck in' Is bullying and vulgar Daphne .

MawBroon Thu 16-Feb-17 08:06:41

Plus his medal for being in the 1966 England World Cup ⚽️ team.

suzied Thu 16-Feb-17 08:00:19

He'll be stripped of his gold medals next...

MawBroon Thu 16-Feb-17 07:51:14

Gotta laugh!
Almost a pity M**r isn't around to enjoy (or is she.......wink. )

daphnedill Thu 16-Feb-17 07:26:42

Ah yes! That must be it! Or as he stated in the European Parliament in 2011 "My background is in sport. I played football at almost every level". Hmm...

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