Melania and equality

You need to know when to let things drop pogs

Why on earth should POGS act according to what you lot want? Honestly, you should listen to yourselves...

OK ana let's put it this way. I know when to let things drop. Does that suit you better?

No I don't WW.

I am getting fed up with posters getting things deleted , not at the time the post was made but at a later time when the person who has their post deleted cannot defend their position.

I have said before it is too easy for a poster to make an accusation and that accusation remains for all to see but the accused has no chance of redress. It has happened to me recently and I call it 'enabling by deletion', enabling a poster to keep their comments on display but getting rid of any post that could challenge their thought.

What's stopping the deleted poster explaining their line of thought. I don't understand your point. Of course any deletion will be done retrospectively.

"What's stopping the deleted poster explaining their line of thought. "

Nothing!

However the only way to explain their line of thought to those who may not have read their deleted post requires referring back to what they had said/posted and if it has been deleted that is impossible to do without referring back to their deleted post and referring back to what 'someone' has deemed as worth reporting". It's a circle that cannot be broken.

Personally I think it would also be incumbent on the person who had a post deleted to ' explain their line of thought'.

oh pogs! That is a delightful post.

trisher I have always been a supporter of Michelle Obama and started a thread to say that we will miss this First Lady.
Or perhaps you didn't see that.

People were commenting on Melania Trump's looks (and it is one aspect that you in particular were very judgemental about) and I am just aghast at some of the nastiness in the media.

MaizieD as far as I am aware no-one thinks my DH is an arsehole; he is not so much in the public eye as Trump, of course (but well-known in some circles). That is what it's all about though, isn't it - the world's eyes on them both now, whatever they do or don't do will be picked up, scrutinised, criticised and pulled to pieces.

Thank goodness DH didn't run for President

Donald Trump was never shy of publicity, was he. Neither was his wife. She did a nude photoshoot on his plane in 2000.

This thread is getting worse...

Nothing wrong with nude photoshoots, jen

ofgs

"oh pogs! That is a delightful post."

Thank you but I wasn't the one who professed " I know when to let things drop." was I!

You asked a question I gave you a reply , plain and simple whitewave.

Let us see if GNHQ reinstate the post by Mair because it certainly should be.It is not racist in any way.

Sometimes a sense of humour helps. But we neither of us were dis cusing the contents of the deleted post which is what I thought should be dropped.

Well done POGS for highlighting this fact, nice to see people standing up for fairness
( even if some tell them to let it drop!)

If we are now onto the subject of nudity.

I raised this point on the Theresa May thread but I am not surprised it did not get a response .

Did anybody see the cartoon by the Guardian Cartoonist Steve Bell?

It is being called misogynist but I call it crude as well. It is a cartoon about Theresa May meeting Trump. It shows two pairs of feet, one pair a women's wearing leopard skin kitten heels, the other pair is males with orange tinted skin and bear foot , they are in bed in a compromising position. That is putting it politely, view it for yourselves it is one of the most offensive cartoons I think I have seen against politicians.

No doubt some people of a certain ilk will find it funny but if that is the level the Guardian has come to show their dislike of Theresa May and Trump then I do truly despair.

Take a look for yourselves!.

And as this thread has shown, there seem to be plenty on here who would find that cartoon funny.

The same posters who found Mair's comment about black skin 'disgusting' and 'deeply offensive' seem quite happy to make sexist comments about Melania Trump and question her intelligence (I think one poster even questioned her claim to have earned a degree at all).

Now we have nudge, nudge comments about nude photoshoots...and all from women who scream 'misogyny' at any journalist who dares to even comment on a women's clothes!

I've seen the Steve Bell cartoon several times on twitter in the past few days.

It's derived from a late 18th/early 19th century 'cartoon' (Gillray, I think) commenting on the marriage of the Duke of York and a German princess. I can't quite remember the context of it but no doubt it was something to do with a dubious commercial exchange. Though the position of the female's shoes is not the same as in the original. Which did make me blink...

I don't quite understand where the mysogyny comes from. It's message seems perfectly obvious.

Well I never! All this sanctimony from the posters who defended the use of violent language.

Do remind us MaizieD what 'violent language' you're referring to.

I didn't think that the sainted Guardian went in for offensive cartoons.....but it obviously does.Don't give us all the guff about Gillray, very few will know that it's based on anything ,who see it.But it's alright you see, because it's a Tory MP and Donald Trump( the same sainted rules don't apply to them.)!

....what violent language?

Still waiting, MaizieD.