Melania and equality

My first post was about confiscated phones.

I watched Trump on tv say that he was ok with water boarding and torture if necessary, but has taken advice from his military and that it wouldn't be used.
A clever move, as it allowed him to say ( to followers) that he was ok with it, but please others, that he wouldn't do it.

If it is not against the laws of the land to do so ( and I have no idea if it is, or isn't in the US.)
Presumably they were checking that their was no danger/ worry of attack or assasination to the President.

Has Trump said he will not be allowing torture, roses?
He hadn't when May got on that plane.

* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.

Did you read this, roses?
Do you think that is acceptable in a democracy?

Wikileaks have said that anyone who has posted research on climate change online can send copies to them, just in case he tries to get rid of all online information.
That should be worrying to everyone.

Regarding Trump and Melania and him leaving her to get out of the car, maybe this is an indication of where their relationship is. You know, in the early days he helps you out the car, holds your hand when he introduces you to his friends and family and is generally protective; then he starts leaving you to get out by yourself and later still to carry the bags as well; eventually of course, if it lasts long enough, you finish up helping each other out of the car depending on whose knees/back/feet are the worst at the time. Donald and Melania have reached stage 2 quite early on, does this mean they won't get to stage 3? And anyway if they do we can guess who will need helping out the car first!

He also said that he had taken advice ( on torture) and would not be allowing it.
you could say ( above list) that he has started doing many of the things that he campaigned on, and is pleasing the 63 million or so people who voted for him ( whatever we think.)

You could also add he said "torture works" and he would allow it.

Yorkshiregel I take it you hadn't read SueDoku's post when you posted your admiration of Trump?

Why should the wife of any President be expected to make speeches or know anything about running a country? This girl was a model. She looks good in clothes and is very beautiful imo. What they do in their private lives is no one else' business. After the cringing moment when she was made to read out Mrs Obama's speech and give the impression that it was her own I do not blame her for looking daggers at Trump when asked to do it again. They do not live together but that is because their young son has not finished High School yet, not because there is a rift. I feel sorry for her myself being plunged in to the spotlight without any training for the job. Their young son could hardly keep his eyes open because he had been up since 3am. Any 10 year old would have been the same.

Personally I think Trump has all the right intentions ie putting USA first, but he cannot express himself in a Statesman way. I like him, and I think he should be given a chance to see what he can do. Maybe someone should give him a bit of training to improve what he cannot do...make speeches for example. Our own King George was not too proud to accept help and Trump shouldn't be either.

Wow!

I hadn't realised he'd already done that much.

Thank you Radicalnan. A bit of rationality. I did think that we in more mature years and with a bit of life experience would stay cool on this. Wrong! I'm very aware of the danger of the media and how it manipulates us by giving bare bone stories when it suits them. Showing the worst possible photograph (and their store is limitless) of whichever 'celebrity' they are currently discrediting. Giving out private information about 'celebrities' which we have neither need nor right to know. Why do we get so het up about all this stuff? Have we not a personal place of our own to revel In? Me? I'm on the bus on my way to lunch with a lovely friend indulging myself in this joy of retirement. Hope some of you are having fun too.

Re the Hitler comparisons; I would normally agree angrily that no-one should be compared with the horrors that he perpetrated
HOWEVER: In his first week, this is what Donald Trump has done - it should give us all pause for thought
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.
- Jan 26th- announces the wall, a ban on immigration from majority Muslim countries and half the number of Syrian refugees accepted by US.
-Jan 26th - Calls for an investigation into the interrogation tactics used by the CIA because they have so far been "restrained", the reintroduction of "black sites" off of US soil for suspect interrogation; and a national registry for Muslims.

Once again people making assumptions about the marriage of people they don't know

I don't think the glamorous model would have have married an unattractive old guy if he was a twice married bin man with no dosh. And the multi billionaire wouldn't marry a woman his own age or who wasn't sexy and glamorous.

When it comes to choosing to marry the guy I think that maybe the multimillionaire tag may have helped!!

You think anyone who preaches the politics of division can be compared to Hitler? Really?

Anyone who preaches the politics of division would be a good start.

Who are you comparing to Hitler, Melania, Donald, Theresa or God?

A lot of people thought Hitler was o.k. once.

Golden God'll do, as in Ra.

Gold?

God

Thanks, roses. The thing is, I feel I'm quite outspoken on GN and I feel repressed by the forum disapprovers, so Gold help anyone who is not naturally forthright. I think they are simply silenced out a lot of the time.

That's what I read too, sunseeker.