Theresa May 4

May was far to eager to be first in the queue to grovel to the great one. So many signs during the election campaign to be wary of the man,

I wish the use of - the special relationship - would stop , we are more like master and servant

May being criticised by Lord Rickets over Trump invite. He said the invitation and rush across the Atlantic was premature. May should have waited and studied Trump.

" It puts the Queen in a very difficult dituation"

Yes, patrolling...and twirling my nightstick presumably.

^ They regard Brexit as crazy because it is well known here how much money has been spent in restoring parts of the Uk Wales and Cornwall e.g.^

Now that's the interesting thing, MargaretX. All the Leavers claim that it's really 'our' money that was being spent here and that we'd be better off spending it direct. Yet, would that money have been spent in that way if we hadn't been in the EU? I, for one, doubt it...

'Patrolling'?

Some posts interest me, others do not.Do I need your permission Maizie?

No roses. It's much easier to just stick your fingers in your ears and sing 'la, la la'.

If you're not that interested what are you doing patrolling these threads?

Well, he is coming on a State Visit whether posters on Gransnet like it or not, nobody has to watch tv though when he arrives.

Sigh! the ones provided by djen in links turned out to be that.....life is too short to look at all the links ( unless I am really interested) and in this case, sadly not.

Maizie is your link to a left wing blogger by any chance?

If you'd bothered to click on it,roses you'd have found out who it was by.

My last to roses

Sorry, didn't read your post quite correctly.

As far as I'm concerned the Orange One is welcome to visit the UK on any other sort of visit, just not a State visit at the moment...

POGS you are right about the German media. They regard Brexit as crazy because it is well known here how much money has been spent in restoring parts of the Uk Wales and Cornwall e.g.

Germany which survived only because of the many small farmers in the post war years, just could not leave their farmers wihout support in the EC as it was then. We still have lot of small farmers especially where I live and as all other farmers in the EU they look after the countryside and water and air quality has improved. But we still need to be vigilant.

It wasn't a State visit. There are different types of visit. He came twice before the actual State visit in 2011

Forgive me for posting a link, but here is a list of all US Presidential visits to the UK:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_visits_to_the_United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

I don't know that it was a State visit, but didn't the Obamas come here just a month or two after his inaugeration, and he met the Queen?

Jess you are now the official wordsmith for Gransnet, full panoply, indeed a cornucopia of slightly Jane Austen-ish phrases is awaiting your pleasure .
Listening to Rees Mogg on tv sent me into golden slumbers a few weeks ago, I need an audio cd of him speaking ( for those sleepless nights!)

You know very well that 'ages ago' is a figure of speech varian Sigh...

Margaret X

Thank you for replying and I owe you an apology. I read the words in Maize D post and your name remained in my head re being a Remainer .

I wondered how you had voted.

I am still no clearer however as to some of the other questions raised and I was genuinely interested. I will assume the stuff about the phone calls, visiting Trump and Theresa May wanting to 'throw in the towel' over the EU are from the German Media .

I will be trying to follow as much of the German Election as possible but I have to rely on information from RT Today and Aljazeera usually for world news as I find the UK media pretty useless for coverage, they think we are not interested. Having said that the German Federal Election is a fair way off so perhaps I am being prejudiced.

Ages ago? Do you mean before Trump was invited? Someone must be psychicl

Someone's already suggested that it's all the fault of Brexiters on another thread, varian. Ages ago.

No previous American President has been honoured with an invitation to a state visit to the UK in their first year of office. The Obamas came here in their third year.

What has changed? I cannot believe that anyone, let alone the royal family, think that Trump is deserving of this honour, so there must be another reason.

Could it be that our government needs to grovel to Trump in a way that previous governments never needed to when we were a significant nation on the world stage, a member of the world's largest and most successful trading bloc and we were able to deal with the USA on the basis of equality?

i like to use the full panoply of words offered by the English language if the occasion allows it. I assume the erudite membership of this discussion forum to be an appreciative audience when, perchance, the muse takes me.

POGS I am a German citizen but born in Sheffield. I have lived here over 40 years and speak German fluently anad have a German family. I dont think I have ever said that I was a remainer as we had no vote but all the Brits I know were devasted that the Uk is leaving and we all pay for it with reduced pensions. I only get a small pension so its not serious for me.

Herr Schulz is SPD and a good man or woman was missing for SPD voters. He appeared on German Tv relaxed and smiling and has lovely wife and family. NOw with him at the helm the SPD may get enough votes to make a coalition with the Greens.

As to Fr Merkel she will stand up to Trump if she thinks it is the right thing to do. No womder he wanted Brexit. He's got the Brits where he wanted them. What a mess.

There was a cartoon in the paper here showing a prisoner tied up to a chair in front of a TV screen. His punishment was to have to listen to all Trumps paroles and speeches before becomimg president.

I love this 'unseemly haste' phrase where is it copied from, The Guardian ? It seems very vicars tea party /Jacob Rees Mogg language.

Or thing even - although think makes sense too!