Is Trump showing worrying signs of mental disorder?

Retrolady I am wondering what has happened to the 'checks and balances' written into their Constitution which we were told would prevent him from acting unilaterally.

Unfortunately Maddy double standards do apply if people care little about the rights of the citizens from one country ( Israel) but protest about the rights of citizens from other countries.

Poverty.

Having seen some of the filming of desperately poor people in America, I think I would have voted for him, after all, it couldn't get much worse. And yes, I do know that many of you are going to jump in and say: well actually, it can, but those people don't think it can so they're pinning their hopes on someone else.
It might go tits, but in their world they've nothing to loose.
If some of you still don't understand, you know nothing about povity.

I'm not asking for anything, just thinking about the duel standards that appear to apply according to who people are and where they come from.

Just read Anya's post about why people aren't supporting him here ... I don't know about us Grans here, but my neighbour does support what he has done and plans to do. She makes rational points about what he has done and I can see there is certainly a case to be made in support of his policies. I think, however that there are justifiable concerns about his methods, his demeanour and his attitude, which is borderline dictator, in my opinion.
In common with most of the rest of you, I don't like what he has done, but that is the Republican way, which Americans voted for. Maybe they didn't think they would be voting for one man to do his will, in his way, regardless of anyone else's feelings, including, apparently, those in his own party. That's not government, that's a dictatorship or in grave danger of becoming one.

So, basically, maddyone you seem to be asking for complete freedom for anyone in the world to go anywhere in the world that they choose to? No country has any right at all to stop anyone entering?

Apart from terrorists and serious criminals. Is this is *after8 theyve been convicted (because I'm not quite sure how you would udentify them before that)?

Yes. Nuff said.

Yes Maddie, it does make a difference because it helps to understand the reasons before criticising or applauding.

Totally agree Roses, in my opinion there should be no discrimination/racism (except in the case of terrorists/serious criminals who might be a threat to the population of the country) but I don't care for duel standards.

But how many grasnetters are openly saying that they would have voted Trump if they lived in the USA?
That is what I mean by hugely out of step.

Any country ( and there are quite a few) who does not permit Israeli citizens to come in to it are as bad Maddy but you don't get any protests about it do you.....when there certainly should be.

Ankers said:

I am beginning to think that us on this forum are hugely out of step with american voters.

But we are not out of step with more US voters than we are out of step with. Clinton got more actual votes than did Trump.

Put it another way, we are in agreement with more US voters than we disagree with..

Does it make any difference where the countries are. Is discrimination/racism ever acceptable? If so, in which circumstances?

Oh, 'divisive' would be the least of it I should think but it would be interesting to hear other views ( if it can all be handled in a civil way)
#whydoidoubtthat

Well, seeing that anyone who expresses a less than left wing opinion on GN is labelled as being on the 'hard right' I don't blame anyone who supports Trump or his policies for keeping well and truly out of it!

Yes, Anya, I'm sure they would be called all your suggestions and probably more (not to mention 'divisive'!)

Possibly there are a few (or more?) on GN who simply don't want to stand up and say 'I support Trump' for whatever reason.

Perhaps they're afraid if being called racist, xenophobic, anti-Islam, facist.....who knows?

Not sure if I'd rather hear their views or respect them for keeping schtum.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states.

I wonder if they would get a different result using a telephone poll as many older people still do not use internet. This came up during campaign polls as well.

Perhaps it is to do with not being poor enough as Ginny suggests.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4177554/Support-Trump-s-travel-ban-poll-measure-went-force-shows-49-cent-agree-order.html

[if some people want to post the same sort of thing from a different website, be my guest.

I am beginning to think that us on this forum are hugely out of step with american voters.

And probably, either because we do not really know the half of what is going on, or...
Not sure why. I was going to say because our media may be a bit biased or wrong?

How else can we explain the differences?

Or is there a large silent majority on gransnet?

Eloethan:
I think I posted this link some time ago - it partly explains why some types of people voted for Trump:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g
Also, I have a theory that many poor people admire rich people, hoping a little bit might rub off on them, and think, to get so rich, he must know what he's doing.

I'm sure there were many different reasons why people voted for Trump, but if we're thinking of specific reasons why some people did, perhaps if you'd been unemployed for years, and someone said they were going to create jobs - you might just overlook the man's personality and outrageous behaviour.

I watched some footage of towns with people living in abject poverty, with no hope of a better life, and it made me wonder if in those circumstances I would have voted for him.

It would be interesting to know how many of over 1 million Native Americans eligible to vote, acually voted. I read that elders and associations had been actively encouraging them to engage in the election and vote for change, but that they struggle to establish voting rights.

This group clearly thought Bernie Saunders would give them a 'Future to Believe in'. and would presumably have voted for Clinton.

www.ibtimes.com/voting-rights-2016-native-americans-struggle-overcome-barriers-ahead-arizona-2340458

grumpaa and Lewlew yes exactly ( to both your comments.)

Can I inject just a moment of frivolity and tension relief, with this interactive page?
trumpdonald.org/
After a brief visit, the serious discussion can continue.

Not much point winning the wrong race.