Is Trump showing worrying signs of mental disorder?

Trump wasn't voted into office by a majority, Nannyanny. He was voted into office by a minority after a dirty campaign

As I have mentioned, probably in another thread, it seems to me that Trump did more campainging in key states.

If it took a majority to win, he would have done his campaign differently.

If Hillary Clinton had done the campaign the way he did, she might have won instead.

It was getting to the whitehouse that mattered, not winning a majority, in america.

It wasn't our decision to make and we are becoming guilty of what we accuse America of constantly doing - interfering in another country's politics.

Absolutely.

My point about the sanity of those who voted for Trump was to suggest, perhaps too obliquely, that once you start questioning one person's sanity it can be very hard to stop. I did not intend to suggest that they actually were insane, and more than the Brexit voters were insane....

My worry with Trump is not so much with any personality disorder from which he may suffer - it is easy to pin one on most political leaders if one tries hard enough - but with the way he goes about things. If you are going to introduce new border controls, in accordance with an election promise, you go to the State Department and say "This is my promise; how do I give effect to it?" The officials then think through the practical problems of implementation and come up with a workable solution. I hope he learns quickly what is actually involved in running a country and actually doing something effectively.

Chewbacca

They are/were (don't know the state of chaos at the moment) turning away those with entry visitor visas which they had to go to the US embassy in their country to get. Business travellers, tourists, etc. So they want to put in more extreme vetting procedures at these US embassies to get the visa. Not very good for those who already were on the plane and the airlines who had to send them back at their expense. The airline industry was not happy about non-consultation.

Some students, even with existing student visas who had been in the US at school already, returning from holidays with family were stopped from entering, too.

Those who have applied for settlement visas DID all go through the several months of processing already. My husband emigrated back with me in 1993 and even then it took 3 months for him as a Brit.

The ban caught out those who had their settlement (provisional green cards) visas in hand from those countries... and you have a face-to-face interview when you arrive for the first time as well and must designate which airport you are arriving to. The vetting was very strong. I cannot imagine it has gotten easier. So why ban them?

Existing settlement visa holders, like Mo Farrah, who were out of the US and returning originally had some problems, but that got sorted.

Have read the report from Russell Brand and although he's not my favourite person, this time, imo he's spot on!
Of course discrimination against Israeli citizens is wrong, but I'm afraid they're damned by their very existence which in the eyes of many makes their discrimination not just ok, but desirable! Outrage can be very selective!!

Not sure if it is racism or support for Pakistan , I don't know the countries

Yes maddy it is.

But should America be following their lead or setting an example to the rest of the world? Surely their border security is stringent enough to weed out suspected terrorists? Or are their security services not up to the standard they should be?

Any of the sixteen countries in the West maddyone?

People who have...

There are 16 countries in the world who do not allow entry to Israeli citizens, and 8 of those do not allow entry to people have an Israeli stamp in their passoprt.
Is this racist?

It's a bit strange Eloethan to question the sanity of about 70 million people, unless it's in a jokey way.Imagine ( shudder) if Corbyn got in here at the next GE, you may be clapping your hands,but many millions would be aghast....we wouldn't really think you were crazy (though some may!) but just that you liked the sound of his policies.Well, so it is in the US, being inclined to overlook his faults because they think he will act on his policies ( which he is doing.)

www.rawstory.com/2016/11/we-have-to-provide-an-alternative-russell-brand-makes-sense-of-the-trump-disaster-and-liberal-failures/

@Eloethan re your comment last night about how hard it is to understand why the poor and disillusioned not to mention disadvantaged chose to support Trump (if I have understood you correctly) and I too have found it almost impossible. However Russell Brand - to whom I would not normally give the time of day - actually puts it well in his way in this clip.

I'm not a girl, I'm a mature, well educated woman.

Tick, tock, another wind up? ⏰

Anya. You are a very naughty girl for swearing, may god forgive you.

Why do I get the impression that this particular Christian is just being fucking sarcastic?

ELOE you are such a kind hearted lady to be so concerned about the mental health of the millions of people who voted for DT and shame on the people who forced them to do so.May the good Lord bless you for being so concerning.

And if you look at some of the comments made by "ordinary " Americans, in their newspaper comments, there is still a lot of support for him unfortunately Eloe. I'm the most surprised by the comments made by refugees who have already settled in the US; some are saying that they waited 3, 6 or 9 months to be allowed in, so why should other countries be expecting to be allowed in any quicker. Completely divided not just America but the rest of the world too.

Good point Jalima

Chewbacca. (got the spelling correct this time

You are welcome.

I think grumppa's point is perhaps what concerns me most - what about the sanity of those that voted for him? I don't see why, even if you were poor and powerless, you would think it a good idea to vote for such a ghastly, vicious man.

It wasn't our decision to make and we are becoming guilty of what we accuse America of constantly doing - interfering in another country's politics.

They surely have enough people over there who must all be working frantically behind the scenes to work out the best way to deal with him.

Thanks POGS and Jalima , I knew impeachment had been involved in the Nixon presidency but Rigby was right, I should have checked myself before posting . USA appears to have had a somewhat "colourful " presidential history and has somehow come through them all. Whilst I think that Trump is ghastly, I accept that the vote to make him president wasn't mine to make. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out, won't it.

www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nixon-charged-with-first-of-three-articles-of-impeachment

Nixon released the tapes then avoided a trial by resigning.

So yes, the impeachment process was started but not completed.

Chewbaka 21.22

"Apart from when Nixon was impeached and removed from office, is there any precedent for a president to be removed because he's mentally unstable?'"

You were not far off the mark in my opinion and if I have the facts right? I am sure somebody will point out the error I may make soon enough.

Papers were indeed proceeding to impeach Nixon but did he not 'resign' to save his skin?

So he was 'REMOVED' but by his own doing because of what was coming down the line, 'IMPEACHMENT'.
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My understanding is 2 American Presidents were IMPEACHED.

President Andrew Johnson March 5th 1868. Senate votes fell short for his conviction.

President Bill Clinton December 19th 1998. Acquitted, again Senate fell short of votes for conviction.

President Richard Nixon 'RESIGNED' before impeachment papers being drawn up came to fruition. (Watergate)

On his resignation the next President, Gerald Ford, issued Nixon with a 'FULL and FREE PARDON'.

This sounds good but it is thought that whilst Nixon was not impeached he therefore could not be found gulity nor aquitted on impeachment. Ford giving him a 'PARDON' as opposed to Nixon being 'ACQUITTED' which implied 'GUILT' for something he was never tried for. Nixon's reputation was tarnished but he never the less resigned rather than face impeachment.

So if in a way you are not far off the mark if I have the facts right .