Freedom of speech

President Trump is the elected leader of the United States. We may not like his views ( I don't) and he seems to be showing a dangerous disregard for the American Constitution in his attacks on Judges and Muslims, but that is for the US Senate and House of Representatives to sort out.

Realpolitik says we need to walk a narrow line with him. He could be a powerful international friend for the UK over Brexit, but if we rub him up the wrong way, he could be a very dangerous enemy and that we cannot afford.

I think what John Bercow did today was silly, dangerous and hypocritical.

can't even remember how this started now.

What, Miliband supported Osborne and Cameron...?

Got that wrong them must have been Miliband

Did you?

Oh I thought you supported Osborne and Cameron ( remember him?)

I don't know what you mean whitewave. Who were 'my favourite peope' and at what time?

Did I ever say any such thing...? No, thought not

Look at it what way you will freedom of speech applies to ALL regardless of what we personally think, including that chap who insisted that Churchill's mother was a whore who'd given birth to him when she was 61! (no protest from speaker Burcow!!)or it doesn't apply to anyone. Surely that's how it should be - 'defending to the death your right to say it however offensive'?

That was to ana

As the country. "We are all in this together" remember that? Your favourite people at the time.

I will raise this point again.

"2 weeks ago at the start of PMQ's ( 25/1/17 ) Bercow with his usual smarmy face welcomed the speaker of the Burmese (Myanmar) parliament and a delegation of parliamentarians who are watching on.

The Burmese Government are welcomed , as was Aung Sun Suu Kyi given much respect in the past by Parliament.

I am mentioning this because of the state of the Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar/Burma. MP's debate the genocide of the Rohingya Muslims in Parliament but the Myanmar/Burmese government turns a blind eye as to the Rohingya Muslim suffering, Genocide, Slaughter.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/30/nobel-laureates-aung-san-suu-kyi-ethnic-cleansing-rohingya

"More than a dozen fellow Nobel laureates have criticised Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar’s de facto leader, for a bloody military crackdown on minority Rohingya people, warning of a tragedy “amounting to ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity”.

Burmese military killed seven of my children, says Rohingya refugee
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The open letter to the UN security council from a group of 23 activists, including Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Malala Yousafzai, warned that the army offensive had killed of hundreds of people, including children, and left women raped, houses burned and many civilians arbitrarily arrested."
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So let me get this straight the Myanmar/Burmese representatives are 'feted' by the likes of Bercow but the Democratically elected President of the United States is shown humiliation.

Sorry but I think some people have lost the plot.

'we'?

No one is stopping Trump saying anything(chance would be a fine thing) we simply aren't going to give him a platform.

If it is usual for foreign presidents and prime ministers to address the House then I think Trump should be allowed to do so too. Apparently Bercow welcomed the Emir of Kuwait and also the President of China so it seems inconsistent, to say the least, to ban Trump, the democratically elected president of an important ally.

Plus, like you cfrance, free speech has to be free speech for everyone, even people one despises, or it isn't free speech at all. I'm rather ashamed of our Speaker, who's supposed to be politically neutral, and quite a lot of MPs. I'm ashamed that we are not standing up for free speech properly.

I believe in freedom of speech, and feel speaking to a depleted H of C would be much more appropriate and effective. I'm afraid as in most things freedom of speech is also 'selective' and hypocrisy, jumping on a popular band Waggon and of course embarrassing Mrs May are the true reasons for this ban.

Made my view known on the Trump thread.

I just find the hypocrisy of Parliament astounding.