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Prison works?

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Ankers Tue 14-Feb-17 14:03:06

I know someone who does research about prisons, and is allowed to visit every prison in the UK to do that.

Her words are "a lot of the people shouldnt be in there".
They need help yes, but prison often isnt the answer.

Iam64 Tue 14-Feb-17 13:53:12

I didn't watch the documentary but I did hear the discussion and phone in on the radio yesterday morning

In the late 1970's, I worked on a project where we set up packages as an alternative for custody for so called recidivists. The prison population was much smaller, staff to prisoner ratio much higher and drug use in prisons nothing like it is now. It was the case then, as it remains, that prison where individuals are locked up 23 hours a day isn't effective. We imprison more people than other European countries, our recidivist rate is high.

We need to stop this austerity approach to justice, social care, education, health etc and invest in our people. Sorry to irritate some folks but we need to take more notice of 'experts' those who work in those areas, look at the research. None of those things support the continuing slash and burn approach to essential public services.

Rigby46 Tue 14-Feb-17 13:28:00

Individual examples prove nothing in general - it's the recidivism rates that are much better evidence

Grannyknot Tue 14-Feb-17 12:38:49

jess prison was the "short sharp shock" for a nephew on my husband's side of the family who got into trouble with cocaine. He cleaned up in prison, did a business degree and is a reformed character. So it works for some people - just like anything else.

JessM Tue 14-Feb-17 12:32:42

Last night's BBC documentary reveals an appalling prison service. Currently under discussion on BBC You and Yours R4.
This is a combination of very high numbers being imprisoned and "austerity".
In the 1960s there were 25k and now there are 86k in prison.
Staff cuts, too many drugs and not enough for prisoners to do.
It was ironic to hear the "warm words" of Ken Clark, David Cameron and Michael Gove who were all holding forth (since 2010) about the benefits of rehabilitation and education.