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whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 13:12:57

Crises in Prisons

Crises in Hospitals

Crises in Social Care

Crises in some Academies

Crises in Local Authority services

JessM Thu 23-Feb-17 22:33:38

Ha-ha. Fitzy The PM maybe holding forth on non right wing policies but we haven's seen anything put into practice yet - unless someone can put me right.
BBC currently running a big news item about the fact that we need immigrants and the government are starting to worry about not having enough to keep the hospitality industry (and others) afloat. They are busy messing this up too. (Maybe this is an incompetence issue...)

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 22:25:45

It's all soundbite, though, fitzy.
Can you tell us anything she has done that she said she would do on the doorstep of number 10?

A leftwing Tory doesn't promote free schools or grammar schools, and that has nothing to do with the EU pushing her in that direction.
A leftwing Tory does not promote the sales of weapons to Saudi Arabia.

Cutting corporation tax is very right wing.
Making the poor poorer is very right wing. She hasn't addressed that at all.

rosesarered Thu 23-Feb-17 22:10:18

Very much what I thought too Fitzy

Fitzy54 Thu 23-Feb-17 22:08:39

www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/theresa-may-is-the-most-left-wing-tory-prime-minister-for-40-years/
This might be behind a paywall, but hopefully not. In any event, you will see from the name of the article that not everyone believes this is the most right wing Tory govt. in recent history! But what the writer does say is that Brexit is likely to force the UK into a more right wing economic stance - that is to say a lower corporate tax regime- in order to compete on a global basis. But the basic starting point was that TM is very much a centre right politician and is aiming to take up some of the slack left open following Labour's lurch left.

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 22:00:14

At the same time there are increases in arms exports since May and trump held hands. I suppose it fits their ideology, to reduce the number of Muslims.

whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 20:36:05

Amnesty has criticised this government for its attitude to child refugees. Embarrassing isn't it?

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 20:30:29

Refugee crisis.
Tory MP says we have got to stop being sentimental about child refugees.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/23/stop-being-sentimental-about-child-refugees-says-tory-mp

All heart, these Tories. I was watching the debate, and couldn't believe what I heard.

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 19:55:30

Or the disabled. Or the jobless. Or the homeless.

whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 19:42:54

Javid announced the new business rates, and has within a day had to back peddle because of the reaction he got. Pity they don't back peddle so quickly when they hit the poor. Oh! Silly me they don't matter do they.

whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 19:39:28

This morning on the radio, there was an item about the cuts being made to academies by this government. The result being that they will have to cut hours and staff. Sounded quite up to date to me annie

Anniebach Thu 23-Feb-17 19:35:59

Jen, are you claiming rundown schools and opening and running of free schools only made the news yesterday ?

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 19:33:14

NAO report on capital finance for schools only came out yesterday.

Crisis in school building as well as academies.

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 19:27:18

www.constructionenquirer.com/2017/02/22/cost-of-free-schools-building-plan-soars/

Where do you get your news from, Annie?
Mine's just one day old.

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 19:24:30

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39043733

Fitzy54 Thu 23-Feb-17 19:16:04

Each of the items mentioned by the OP and by Jess are worthy of their own a thread, so no point in trying to deal with them individually. Clearly the govt. must bear some responsibility in each case, but it's far too simplistic to suggest that all the problems with each of them are entirely the govts. fault. But, to respond specifically to paddyann's point, I can't see the "austerity" badge is valid any longer. The govt. is spending a great deal of money, which, in the context of what is available, stacks up reasonably well with expenditure in other countries.

JessM Thu 23-Feb-17 19:12:16

Ana it's a thread about them.
The Tory party have always stood for conserving wealth. Hence the name Conservative. They have never stood for taxing the rich to look after the poor and vulnerable. Or equal shares in anything.
During the last 7 years the extremely rich have got a lot richer, while the poor have got poorer and most ordinary working people have seen their incomes stagnate or even fall. More people are in insecure forms of work, like zero hours.
There was a time when Conservatives were reasonably compassionate and seemed to support the welfare state. Thatcher was less compassionate and by the end of her "reign" the dreadful state of school and hospital buildings around the country was a testimony to that.
Most people thought Thatcher was quite right wing (compared to, say, McMillan). This lot are much more extreme in their policies than she was - hence it is obvious that they are further to the right. By far the most right-wing government since the war.

Anniebach Thu 23-Feb-17 19:07:39

The Guardie is way behind with news, nothing new about that

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 19:04:13

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/22/government-spending-billions-on-free-schools-while-existing-schools-crumble

Anniebach Thu 23-Feb-17 18:58:08

There is news and very old news

durhamjen Thu 23-Feb-17 18:54:29

Lack of finance to repair rundown schools while financing free schools is definitely Tory policy - obviously not noticed by those who think news is bad for their health.

daphnedill Thu 23-Feb-17 18:39:13

I omitted the word "education". It should read "local education authorities".

daphnedill Thu 23-Feb-17 18:34:35

The dismantling of local authority has without any shadow of a doubt been totally deliberate. Gove stated as much when he became Education Secretary.

I can't confirm the other areas of public service, but it certainly looks deliberate.

No, I don't think people will feel better after having a moan and the people most affected certainly won't feel better.

If all Labour supporters have the same values, annie, why do you object to Corbyn so much? I'm afraid I disagree with you anyway. Traditional Labour voters don't have the same values as my daughter and her friends, who are also active Labour members, have.

Ana Thu 23-Feb-17 18:27:09

Are you saying that only Tory MPs have this 'malign intelligence' JessM?

JessM Thu 23-Feb-17 18:23:55

Well roses the alternative hypothesis can only be that they are not very bright and grossly incompetent at their jobs. I prefer to credit them with a malign intelligence.
Or perhaps there is a third explanation - maybe that they are all intelligent and well-meaning but somehow other forces are prevailing that are somehow closing libraries, provoking doctor's strikes and reducing school budgets etc.

paddyann Thu 23-Feb-17 16:39:43

Peasants ...