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whitewave Thu 23-Feb-17 13:12:57

Crises in Prisons

Crises in Hospitals

Crises in Social Care

Crises in some Academies

Crises in Local Authority services

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 13:37:36

Does crisis in banking fit this thread?
Not even the Bank of England can be trusted. I presume this is tonight's Panorama?

www.rt.com/uk/384190-bank-england-libor-scandal/

durhamjen Mon 10-Apr-17 10:48:00

For all employers. You'd better not want to employ an immigrant from outside the EU.

theconversation.com/welcome-to-britain-in-2017-where-everybody-is-expected-to-be-a-border-guard-75148

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 15:25:51

The petition on PR got over 103,000 votes and is to be debated in parliament.
There will be a demonstration outside parliament on the Saturday before the debate for anyone who is interested.

durhamjen Thu 06-Apr-17 20:39:04

Yes, see what you mean. A bit like saying they are devolving to councils here, and then blaming them because they have to cut services as they haven't been given the money to pay for their responsibilities.
I don't understand why, if they can devolve all benefits to Northern Ireland, they can't do the same to Scotland.

Granny23 Thu 06-Apr-17 20:26:29

Sorry pressed wrong button. This is the link:

reformscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Reform-Scotland-Scotlands-new-powers-March-2016.pdf

Granny23 Thu 06-Apr-17 19:16:45

DJ No, only some aspects of benefits have been devolved to the SG. I am no expert but it seems to me that the whole exercise is designed to give the impression of devolved control without the wherewithal and powers to make any meaningful changes.

Read this for an overview.

durhamjen Thu 06-Apr-17 18:13:23

Yes, Granny23, it makes you feel physically sick at the thought of it. I don't know how many petitions I've signed to get that stopped, but it didn't make any difference.
It's not going to stop me signing petitions against unjust laws, though. Some we have won.

Does it apply to Scotland?
After Brexit, will you be in charge of all your benefits system?

Rigby46 Thu 06-Apr-17 17:56:40

Granny23 oh yes some will soon be along to justify this. I'm also interested in their justifications for the swingeing changes to bereavement benefits ( see DJ's link above)

Granny23 Thu 06-Apr-17 17:04:33

Today the new benefit regulations come into force and I received this via facebook. Is there anyone on this forum prepared to justify this Tory Government decision?

^I cannot begin to tell you how angry this makes me. Women being asked to fill out a form and provide proof that they were raped in order to still get benefits for a third child. Having to sign to agree they are not in a relationship with the person who raped them. Having to get a professional person (who are in no way trained to make that assessment) to agree you were forced.
The mere idea of this is nauseating, the actual application of it will cause harm to people who have already been harmed enough.
It means letting your child know how they came about, it means defining what happened to you in strict legal terms, it means that many won't claim, it means people looking at you like you are making it up to get the money, it means that private hurt becomes public property, it means telling a faceless official you were raped and having to justify it, having to explain why it wasn't your fault, your wish, justify why it was their fault not yours. You have to tell the governments nominated person what he did to you, why you froze and didn't' fight back, why you didn't tell the police straight after, why it why it was your boyfriend, your husband, your Dad, and it's not that easy to say no, and how if the police were involved your whole family would break apart, how you are afraid your kids will go into care if there was violence in the house, so you said nothing....
... and you have to confirm all your shame, hurt and pain, on a form so it can get fed into a computer in the hopes you are believed....
.... so that you can be given a pittance of money to keep your children fed and clothed.
This is disgraceful. This was slipped into law without even a parliamentary vote, on the day of Donald Trump;s inauguration. While the man accused of assaulting more than 20 women was being given the most powerful job in the world, Westminster put in the most medieval law we have seen in modern times^.

^SNP MP Alison Thewliss has been working tirelessly to get this repealed and get some focus on this issue, but Westminster rode rough shod over all the pleas from charities and support groups to remove this law.... and all so that they can make sure 3rd children don't get any money to live on..... while the well heeled down south are getting a cut in their taxes...
I ask you, what kind of morally bankrupt society would do such a thing?^

Not My Country.

durhamjen Mon 03-Apr-17 00:13:24

Another sign of a sick government.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/02/cancer-patients-family-stands-to-lose-50k-under-benefit-cuts

What's a man's life worth?
£58,000 today; £6300 after Thursday.

durhamjen Sun 02-Apr-17 20:21:45

I wish it had been made up, Welshwife.
Obviously the government can't see the irony at a time that we are taking back control.

Welshwife Sun 02-Apr-17 16:04:28

You couldn't make it up!!

whitewave Sun 02-Apr-17 15:35:27

Nationalisation by a foreign nation. Good ain't it?

durhamjen Sun 02-Apr-17 11:20:39

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/new-carriages-dumped/

By the Chinese company running Southwest trains.
The new carriages are being built by Siemens.

durhamjen Sat 01-Apr-17 17:27:43

www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUMmyuYx0_fHRLMXVcK8YfHw&v=fQlRluPVodM

This is an interesting video to show why things cannot go on the way they are.

daphnedill Sat 01-Apr-17 15:37:28

Ah! OK! Haven't got time to look into it at the moment, but MAG owns Stansted Airport, so it's sometimes in my local news.

durhamjen Sat 01-Apr-17 15:08:10

I liked the fact that now trump has got rid of the US commitment to renewables, China is now the world's greatest power in renewables. I bet trump didn't mean that to happen in his return to coal.

durhamjen Sat 01-Apr-17 15:06:02

DJ didn't mean anything. That was part of the quotation from the RMT.

daphnedill Sat 01-Apr-17 08:26:46

MAG, Manchester Airport's holding company, is still in public ownereship. Its biggest shareholder is Manchester City Council.

I think dj means Manchester Airport City, which is something different. A Chinese construction company has a large investment in the project.

Welshwife Sat 01-Apr-17 07:58:47

I think it is a very dangerous game relying so much on China and Chinese goods. All the people who are hoping that Britain will start to be a manufacturing country again are in for such a disappointment - how can any company compete with the low Chinese prices? The quality of goods is much poorer and the container loads of cheap goods filling UK ports shows the way things are going.

Ginny42 Sat 01-Apr-17 07:20:20

You couldn't make it up could you DJ? Sounds like an early April fool.

A fifth of Manchester airport is puzzling...

durhamjen Fri 31-Mar-17 22:42:44

The first thing Chris Grayling did was hand over a British run railway to a Chinese company to celebrate taking back control.

"Even before today’s decision, research by the RMT union showed 70% of Britain’s rail network was owned by foreign states.

The union points out that, with Article 50 set to be triggered on Wednesday, this was the first rail franchise decision in which the Government cannot blame the EU for choosing privatisation over public ownership.

Even Tories opposed to publicly-run railways must be able to see that it’s not exactly ideologically coherent for a Brexiteer like Grayling to take a rail franchise from a UK company in Stagecoach and handed it to a Chinese firm.

And it’s not just the railways, the Chinese state is to set to own a third of the Hinkley Point C power station and a fifth of Manchester airport.

So, the Tories are swapping the EU, the world’s biggest free block, for China, the world’s biggest Communist country.

Carry on comrades… "

durhamjen Fri 31-Mar-17 22:18:53

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/03/there-is-only-one-area-of-england-where-a-low-paid-worker-can-afford-a-home/

Anniebach Fri 31-Mar-17 09:13:49

True Mauzie, it was even on the Brexit battle bus , so a very important part of the Brexit campaign

whitewave Fri 31-Mar-17 08:07:00

Not remotely surprised to read thst Dacre has been the only editor to be wined and dined by May. This was later recipri cated by Rothermere.

All chums together!