Labour now

Why do some think that if one party doesnt have the answer, the other one must do!!!!!!!!! That is so not logical.

Who says they do? I'm afraid it's your argument/question which isn't logical - not that logic has much to do with entrenched viewpoints.

Independent candidates are almost invariably NIMBYs. They are interested in one or two issues, but don't have any interest in a rounded view.

dj post 11.53am

and I am a floating voter so hardly entrenched! [only 1 1/2 more years to go.........]

There are countless posts informing Corbyn is going to save the NHS, schools, care in the community, rail transport, benefit payments, affordable housing, the environment etc, this is logical

Until what?

If people from different parties can work together on GN, why not in real life?

Independent candidates are almost invariably NIMBYs. They are interested in one or two issues, but don't have any interest in a rounded view

So what a lot of people want in my opinion. A person who will fight for your particular area. How wonderful!

Agree that in the first instance in parliament, they would struggle a bit, but so do a lot of new MPs it seems.

dj, you call the news and politics board, gransnetters working together?!!!

I didn't claim LibDems are doing anything dj (apart from pushing the 'Unite for Europe' march to Parliament on 25th March).

Rumours are that some Labour MPs don't think Gorton is safe. I expect it's nonsense, because Gorton is the 9th safest seat in the country, but there's certainly 'trouble at mill' (well, not at the mill, because there aren't many left).

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/the-labour-battle-for-gorton-12677245

PS. It's obvious many Labour MPs are working hard to talk to and listen to their constituents. They're keeping themselves away from the factional in-fighting and not jostling for leadership positions. I hope they hang on to their seats, because they deserve it, but the media (and public outside their constituency) isn't generally interested in workhorses.

PPS. The Manchester Evening News is owned by Trinity Mirror and is left-leaning.

Have you seen this, daphne?

mediabiasfactcheck.com/

An interesting list.

POGS Sun 05-Mar-17 10:28:03
You say you are a non Labour Supporter you obviously do not think the political party you would vote for will 'change anything looking toward the future'.

Did I really say I was a "non Labour Supporter"? I thought I said I was not a Labour supporter and I am reasonably sure they really don't mean anything like the same thing. I can't see any logic in what you say and your twist on what I said about myself seems to be at the root of it.

Ankers Sun 05-Mar-17 11:55:13
4th industrial revolution? Not convinced one is coming, so no answer for that either, as dont even think it may happen really.

Really? We already happily discuss the Gig economy and the Platform economy because they are here and both robotisation and AI are displacing jobs in both the unskilled and skilled areas. I would say it is happening already Ankers but do keep your eyes closed if you don't want to believe it.

There is much talk of the Basic Income and a fifteen hour working week has been mooted. Change is constant and a tide you cannot hold it back but you can make it work for the many rather than the few.

GGMk2 Dinna fash yersel as we say, autrement dit, "Don't worry"
If Ankers is not minded to see a 4th Industrial Revolution coming, and *doesn't think it will happen, really^ there is clearly nothing to worry about.

If that is all it takes for a "revolution" then I myself very underwhelmed.
As you say, change is constant.

And as for "worrying" about something?

I do find some posters soooooo very negative. All the time. Count your blessing people do, before your own finishes.

You live the same life whether positive or negative. There is really so so much to be positive about. Even in your own lives right now.

I an going to bow out of the politics threads for a bit.

Get a grip people.

Your life is passing you by, while you moan moan moan.

Who said anything about being negative? (Apart from you)

I an going to bow out of the politics threads for a bit
Get a grip people
Your life is passing you by, while you moan moan moan

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www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2017/mar/05/trump-promised-to-wipe-out-isis-perhaps-he-already-has-

I know it's about trump, but I thought it might cheer Ankers up.
Or has she gone?

I think she has Jen but I am sure we will get an announcement when she comes back

Hamlet Act1 Sc1. Francisco.

I don't know about Shakespeare, it seems more like Lewis Carroll to me

MB.

I have to say I look forward to a 15 hour weeks and a Basic Income and everyone rating jobs by how much we need them (dustman more than bankers) rather than how much they can con demand from the system.

Agree with all of that, GracesGran.
I was appalled last week when I found out that there are 1.3 million people with learning disabilities, of whom 1.2 million are unemployed.
Hopefully they will all be employable in a basic income future. I've never met one who didn't want to work.