Labour now

It's not just the media. It's the voters themselves, who think Corbyn is a disaster. This is a focus group interviewed by Manchester Uni. Sorry, the sound quality is poor.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ep9a90ZLEI&t=339s

PS. This is one of a series of videos. There are others with other groups of people eg females. They all say more or less the same thing.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/john-mcdonnell-claims-whole-media-establishment-wants-to-destroy-jeremy-corbyn_uk_58ba9c8fe4b0d2821b4e7ba6?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk

I thought it was Baroness Hayter who proposed it. She's Labour.

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Yes, but they all come under Salford and Eccles (I think).

Labour has an almost impossible problem, caused partly by the referendum. It's losing its Leave voters (mainly older traditional people) to Ukip and its younger Remain voters are going back to the LibDems. It doesn't have a clear message about Brexit, so rather than keeping people, it's losing them.

It needs to have a much stronger narrative on the NHS and other issues, which trumps people's views on Brexit. Corbyn and his supporters don't want anything to do with any agreement with the LibDems, whom they see as right wing traitors.

It was a LibDem amendment in the HoL, which resulted in the government's defeat over EU citizens. Labour peers voted against a LD amendment to keep the UK in the single market. It's a confusing message. Many of the younger (and other) people who joined Momentum aren't impressed.

My personal view is that it's too late for opposition parties to work together and we're going to see a major realignment of political parties at some time in the not too distant future. Labour is already a split party.

Yes, it is the same constituency. Was Hazel Blears.

My grand daughter is in M5; Kersal is M7.

Kersal is a ward of the city of Salford. I think it's actually in Rebecca Long-Bailey's constituency, which now incorporates Eccles. She has a huge majority, but if Ukip collapses and votes transfer to Conservatives in addition to some Labour votes, there could be a challenge.

More reason for opposition parties working together, daphne.

My granddaughter is in Rebecca Long-Bailey's constituency, next door, I think.
Another one who is in line for taking over from Corbyn, if you believe everything you read.

Lucy Powell has stated (supported by data from Prof Rob Ford) that Labour is losing votes to Ukip and back to LibDems (ie to both sides). Few are going directly from Labour to Conservative, but what's happening is that the anti-Conservative vote is being split by the smaller parties.

In Kersal the Labour vote was split by an Independent over a local planning issue. 41% of the voters are Jewish, which some people seem to be saying might have had something to do with it. dj is right - the Conservative vote didn't increase and went down slightly.

Kaufman's vote in Gorton in the 2015 election almost certainly increased because students deserted the LibDems.

think-left.org/2017/03/04/a-tale-of-two-deaths-nhs-and-private-health-care/

This is wht over ten thousand people are marching in London today. We need our NHS back.

But the Tories took the council seat from labour, which is why I asked if it was a deprived area

labourlist.org/2017/03/corbyn-every-elderly-person-denied-the-care-they-need-is-a-political-choice/

This is much more important today.

Tory votes went down as well. They both lost votes to an independent. The whole story would be good.

Sorry Kersal

Kerala Ward ,Salford lost to Tories in council elections, labour vote down 21.5

Is this a deprived area ?

I hsve no idea Iam, there could be other reasons his msjority increased. I know nothing of the area.

Here the Rhondda has been labour from the year dot. Last year labour failed to win the Rhondda for the Welsh Assembly, when I heard this I was almost in shock then remembered Leanne who won for Plaid was Rhondda born

Maybe I'm wrong then Annie! Wouldn't be the first time.

But he increased his vote less than two years ago. Did this not being a visible MP only happen since 2015

Kaufman's popularity in his constituency has been diminishing. As others have said, he hasn't been a very visible MP amongst other things.

I thought it a strange thing to say Rosesarered, knowing how some feel, if it's staying untill those around him lose the will to live he has nearly completed the job

Yes, I wonder too ab.... it sounds a bit sinister doesn't it? Stay until everybody around him has lost the will to live?

What did Corbyn mean when he said he was staying untill the job is done ?

Can't be winning an election, a leaders job doesn't end there .