Could this be the start of a nasty period in Britain as Brexit starts to hit?

Very interesting and frightening article azie09

It may be a good idea Rinouchka
But you may have to take a test in the English language

(that's meant to be a joke btw)

Rinouchka - did you never think of applying for British citizenship? Since you feel that the UK is your home then that would give you the security you need.
I agree with others - non-EU immigrant cases have nothing to do with Brexit.

I thought the "big picture" was that Brexit isn't likely to have a substantial effect on immigration?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/immigration-will-not-dramatically-fall-after-brexit-says-amber-rudd

It may be that some people would like to think that there is no connection between immigration controls and Brexit but this is a very good article that makes it clear that, in fact, the whole business is about the Tory party staying in power and the Home Office having to come up with the goods and keep out as many immigrants as possible. The big picture is what's important not odd cases where an appeal may have led to a rescindment of the instruction to leave.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/11/brexit-uk-immigrants-eu-nationals-home-office

Yes, that is the right thing to happen.Sometimes the immigration people may be doing the right thing 'on paper' but the wrong thing in real life.The easier options are always gone for, but luckily, appeals kick in.

Thanks for that MaizieD
Good news - let's hope it is not just temporary and she can get her degree, a job and apply for citizenship (if she wants to now).

Good news this morning that Shiromini has not been deported and is being allowed to finish her degree course

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/exemplary-student-who-faced-deportation-9927480

As an American citizen, married to a Brit, I have had permanent residence for over 40 years, have only worked in the UK as a teacher in state schools, educated thousands of 16-19 year olds over 3 decades, have always paid my taxes, etc. I consider the UK my home.

Should I be worried next time I am abroad and return home??

Here's the latest. University VC pleading for her to stay.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39105601

A nephew of my friend got a job assessing asylum claims straight out of uni. Cameron set a target for net immigration which was not based on the needs of the economy or anything else. May failed to get to grips with it. The UK economy needs immigrants and has ways of inviting them in - whether it be on short term visas from Australia or on the plane from Spain etc.
The Tories know that cutting immigration drastically would have a terrible effect on the economy but they are worried about votes.
There was a BBC news report last week about how there tourism industry in York relies on (mainly EU) immigrants.
Please sign the petition above. A charity is providing a barrister to try to get a judicial review to prevent this girl and her mum being deported. I feel so sorry for her. Last week she was doing well in her studies in a Welsh university. Today in Yarlswood, wondering whether she will be put on a plane tomorrow.

Indeed

These are all such sad cases, and so bloody pointless. The point I was trying, clumsily perhaps, was that I wondered if with Brexit on the horizon, we would see more of these incidents. Those who voted for Brexit were generally voting for an end to 'uncontrolled' immigration, and surely the people who are not EU or former Commonwealth could now be more vulnerable to being expelled? The subject of EU citizens is, as we know, tricky, and the government has to walk a thin line so as not to engender some sort of awful tit for tat expulsion frenzy. I fail to see what is gained by expelling someone who is contributing to the economy, has made a family life, and is to all intents and purposes a citizen.

Sadly this is nothing new, it has been going on for years. Whole families, some running successful businesses, young people in the middle of their higher education, etc.. If people didn't know this then they've been burying their heads in the sand.

And one for Irene Clennell:
www.change.org/p/save-irene-clennell-from-being-deported-her-family-is-in-the-uk

Although she has already been deported

Correction: I understand that the young Australian mother was allowed to stay in the end, judges ruled that she could stay and the Home Office was going to fight to get this overturned but 'relented' in the end.

I put a link on the other thread to sign a petition to allow the student to stay; here it is
www.change.org/p/amber-rudd-mp-stop-shiromini-getting-deported-she-is-three-months-away-from-completing-a-degree

I would have thought that, with the country voting for Brexit, then Commonwealth and other citizens with links to the UK would have found it easier to stay here. I do realise that the rules for non-EU citizens were more stringently applied but we're on the way out now.

Could this be the start of a nasty period in Britain as Brexit starts to hit?
This was not started as an anti-Brexit rant, and I don't want it to end up as such.

that is exactly what it seems like. They are non-EU citizens so I fail to see what it has to do with Brexit.

This was brough up on another thread and is it very wrong and is, I think, due to over-zealous officials deciding in a very arbitrary fashion who will be an easy target to deport to show the public that they are doing something about immigration! Unfortunately they are picking on the wrong people, the easy targets and some who should never be allowed to stay are managing to get leave to stay despite criminal records.

The case MaizieD mentions too is disturbing and I have mentioned a while ago about Australian, Canadian or New Zealand citizens (Commonwealth citizens) who have been deported when they have in fact been making a valuable contribution to the UK. There is also the case of the young Australian mother married to a British man with two British children and another baby on the way who was deported.

Would just like to clarify that I did not and do not 'assume bad motives' in those who voted for Brexit....I just still cannot understand what people were voting for. A close friend who daily filled his FB page with all sorts of pro brexit postings in the long run up to the vote suddenly shut up very promptly when the vote was made....on being pressed by several people face to face about his motivation...he became very defensive and simply sited 'personal reasons' for voting and refused to elaborate. I doubt I will ever understand the vote and it worries the hell out of me as to what will happen and how my children and grandchildren will fare.

There's this one, too:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39098562

The girl in question has been here since she was 12 and is within 3 months of obtaining a First class degree in engineering. A potentially extremely valuable contributor to Britain; we need to hold onto all the talent we can get if we're going to idiotically try to go it alone in the world.

I do not think that this case has anything whatever to do with Brexit.

I also do not think that we can know what motivated individuals to vote out - it is too easy to assume bad motives in someone whose decision you disagree with. The issue of the EU and Britain's relationship with it has been very problematical over decades - Brexit is just the culmination of those problems; and there are other EU countries who are watching GB very carefully; countries who have shared these longstanding problems about the EU's distance from its original brief and its unhealthy extension of power.

Sadly HildaW I think a lot of them didn't know. They were disaffected in various ways and were sold a pack of lies and misinformation by the Leave campaign, that dreadful character Farage and the tabloid media. The rise in hate crimes cannot be ignored. I can't bear to read the news these days and however the economy fares, I fear for the future social fabric of our country.

It's the same in the US where only the other day an Indian engineer was shot by a man shouting 'go back to your own country '. Simplistic stories told to convince the simple minded who then feel entitled to wreak violence on those they can identify as 'foreign'.

I would still love to know what people who voted for Brexit were actually voting for. I see and hear a lot about what they say they were NOT voting for but, to this day, I still do not understand what they were voting for.

I understand your point Gill and we must hope not, each case has to be looked at on it's own merits ( for deportation) and we are not always 'in' on all the facts.

I did say what a lot of people who voted Brexit wanted, not all there is actually a difference.