Could this be the start of a nasty period in Britain as Brexit starts to hit?

This is why refugees want to come to Britain in the first place, because of the way they are treated in other EU countries that they pass through.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/12/the-refugees-uk-wants-to-send-back-to-countries-where-they-were-abused

Unfortunately they do not know that numbers are more important to this government, and they are likely to be sent back.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/teenager-walid-durani-young-builder-of-year-deport-afghanistan-fleet-hampshire-visit-parliament-a7617606.html

This was in response to a case brought by a Syrian family. They applied for a humanitarian visa in Syria. They intended to travel to Belgium, where they were going to apply for asylum. The visa was refused, because the Belgian authorities said the family planned to overstay the 90 day validity of the visa. The ECJ upheld the ruling, because it said that there is already a legal resettlemnet programme in place.

What the British government is doing is different.

Just because they don't have to doesn't mean they don't.

This story wasn't from the DM. It was from Reuters. I had to add that because anything anti eu is assumed as fake news.

The European court have ruled that member states do not have to issue visas on humanitarian grounds even when applicants are in fear of torture.
Not just the Tories, then? The nasty side of the saintly eu.

Yes, varian. See above.

Yes, I know. That's why my daughters in law are not applying.

I read in the paper over the weekend about a woman who is married to a Frenchman, with a young daughter, who is feeling very upset about it all.
What people tend not to know is that marrying a British person and getting dual nationality was outlawed by May in 2012.

She is applying for German citizenship, which she legally can do because she is the granddaughter of German Jewish Holocaust refugees. How sick is that?

Even if her husband is offered permanent residency, it could be revoked if he left the country for longer than few months.
While typing this I am listening to David Davies saying Britain will still be an open and tolerant society.
I feel like throwing something at the TV.

Isn't it ironic that those of us who cherish democracy and our tolerant society are now having to rely on the unelected House of Lords to do their best to avert disaster?

Quite. Specially if you come from the EU - some people are popping back and fore all the time.
However that charge is very, very modest compared to the cost of applying for UK citizenship (nearly £2k by the time they have done all the exams etc)

Just as long as they do not continue to charge £65 for it as well.
It's ridiculous expecting everyone to have proof of every time they have been abroad over the time they have lived in the UK. I am sure my daughters in law do not.

They need to ditch the 85 page form and get it down to about 3. That would speed things up.
Not hard to work out, is it. Save them a fortune in temps.

It's going to take forever to process all these applications.

"More than 135,000 EU nationals have applied to live in Britain permanently in just six months, it has been revealed – ahead of a Commons showdown next week.

The Home Office is being inundated with bids for residency, as Theresa May continues to fight pressure to guarantee EU citizens can remain in the country after Brexit.

Applicants are plunged into what has been called a “nightmare” bureaucratic process of filling in a 85-page form at a cost of £65. The guidance notes alone run to 18 pages."

They are going to have to stop it and be sensible about letting EU residents stay. Even Gove says so!

The man who runs Cambridge Analytica.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/nigel-oakes-cambridge-analytica-what-role-brexit-trump

I think the Tories position is utterly bizarre.

Talk about mixed messages.

They say "oh don't worry, any EU now residing in the U.K. Will be able to stay"

Although we know that is a lie as the Home Office is rejecting thousands of claims.

They then say " we cannot guarantee anything as we must use everything at our disposal as a bargaining chip"

They don't have the guts to say this includes the EU citizens , but everyone knows that is what it means.

Irish border problem looking serious.

For those who think leaving the EU will not make any difference to travel visas. If we want control of our borders, so will the EU.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-visa-free-travel-americans-european-parliament-vote-a7609406.html

Is this a warning to the UK?

They don't seem concerned, though, do they?

This is interesting. I read about it last week, but thought nothing would come of it.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/04/cambridge-analytics-data-brexit-trump

Oh dear. Zimbabwe is a dangerous place for anyone who opposes the government in any way.

Another sign of how nasty Britain is becoming.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/03/man-who-saved-two-children-from-house-fire-to-be-deported-from-uk

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-latest-eu-national-right-to-live-uk-theresa-may-panic-a7602191.html

The rules of residence were changed on 1st February.

All the more reason not to trust the government.

www.freemovement.org.uk/briefing-legal-status-eu-citizens-uk/

Did anyone say it's just Tories?
Well, yes, it has been assumed throughout the thread.

Did anyone say it's just Tories?
However, she has been told that if her next appeal doesn't work, she can't apply again for another ten years?

Irene Clennell:
2003- 2005 – Lives in Britain and makes numerous applications for leave to remain, all of which are rejected
2007 – Refused permission to enter the UK and is turned back from a UK airport

Oh dear, not just the bad Tories then.

Why? Rules is rules.

Fed up with the "we're crowded" line. Try a little flight across the British Isles. Quite tricky to spot a town at all. Try flying from Luton to Waterford for instance. You don't fly over any towns and cities, all the way to the Welsh coast.
It't not the Uk that is overcrowded. It's successive governments that have not been building enough housing.
And, of course, London is a victim of it's own success. But it would not function for at all if all the immigrants and the offspring of immigrants downed tools together and went for a chat in the park.

" The Lords debate exposed the prime minister’s contradictory and deceitful arguments against protecting EU citizens living here. If, on this most popular and painfully human question, she will give no inch, that’s a terrible augury for how she intends to conduct these negotiations, opening with a war cry to all 27 countries: we hold your people hostage."