Respect the office

Why is it that some people cannot seem to accept an election result unless it goes their way? The Presidential Election, the EU referendum, Scottish independence.

Whilst we may not agree with DT's ways of doing things (he was not a career politician let's remember) or indeed his decisions, he is the president of the USA and we have enough of our own problems to deal with.

Why is it that some people cannot seem to accept an election result unless it goes their way?

Is is just an internet thing I wonder? People in rl seem to accept things a lot better.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/06/president-donald-trump-most-powerful-cornered-animal-world

Trump doesn't accept things unless they go his way.

But he is not our problem. He is America's problem. They voted him in. It really is none of our business and let's face it Obama made it perfectly clear that we (the UK) would be at the back of the queue when it came to trade.

Our own politicians are often far from squeaky clean and we should really be concentrating on problems at home.

But DT is our problem - his relationship with Russia, how he reacts to the N Korea problem, how he deals with Israel will all impact on us - POTUS isn't called the leader of the free world for no reason - and we are part of the free world. We have a perfect right to be concerned about what he does.

I wish that was true. He is everyone's problem. He is the most powerful person in the Western world. We can't ignore him, even if we wanted to. We can't ignore May's wish to cosy up to him to make the UK more powerful than the EU.
He doesn't want to cooperate; he wants the US to be the most powerful place in the world.
Our "independent" nuclear deterrent is controlled by him.

X posts, Rigby.

And as for respect - well that's a two way street - DT was a leading proponent of the birthed movement which was a vile racist attack on Obama and not related to say thing he'd actually done as President

<sigh> birther

<sigh agsin> say= any . Time for bed methinks

Goodnight. Your typing will be okay tomorrow.

Respecting an elected office, such as the US presidency, while not respecting the person who holds the office has nothing to do with the electoral system and everything to do with the elected person's behaviour.

Incidentally, although not really relevant to my OP, I think even those Republicans who have criticised Donald Trump would be reluctant to pursue impeachment.

www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-06/trump-s-wiretap-tweets-raise-risk-of-impeachment

www.politicususa.com/2017/03/04/fisa-warrant-include-cert-target-foreign-power-agent-foreign-power.html

Maybe trump should have respected the office; then he might not have got himself into trouble.

He isnt in trouble yet.
But he does need to be careful. More careful than he is being. Which is why I am doubtful he will stay in office 4 years. He will trip himself up somewhere along the line in my opinion.

Though having said that, Hillary Clinton managed somehow not to end up in prison or get herself into serious trouble[though she lost the election], so Trump may be able to dodge things too, if he gets himself stuck in sticky situations also.

I'm not that bothered about the grand scheme of things or whether the office of President will exist in 20, 50, 100 years time. I'm more worried about what DT will do in the next few weeks, months and years.

I don't want to live/die in interesting times.

GN seems to have moved to grumpy land this morning (not specifically this thread) so here's something to raise a (wry) smile.

eveningharold.com/2017/03/05/obama-alleged-to-have-monitored-trump-with-dastardly-reading-twitter-ploy/

Is nothing sacred?

Every now and again we have a good laugh and forget how serious this might turn out to be. Donald Trump is actually the "leader of the free world". God help us all.

Of course it is our business who the US President is - decisions made in the US affect the whole world, socially, militarily and economically.

As CNN reported in 2012, "the United states has active duty military troops stationed in nearly 150 countries". The 2008 financial crash is largely accepted as being triggered by the US sub prime mortgage crisis. It is a fact that creeping Americanisation is increasingly found in many countries, including Britain.

Apart from all that, when a country as powerful as America is led by a man who seems intent on causing hatred and division, I feel it is everybody's business.

Of course it is our business who the US President is - decisions made in the US affect the whole world, socially, militarily and economically.

It isnt really.

We dont get to vote. America doesnt rule us. They dont own us. They dont make our laws etc. We are not a member.

Yes, America affects us. But so does France or Belgium.

People are forever saying Britain should butt out of other countries, but some seem intent on butting in to America. And they dont even like the country most of the time.

I can't agree Ankers and think Eloethan is spot on. The US is enormously powerful and can hold the fate of the Estern world in its hands.
You may be too young to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, but the world literally teetered on the brink . The UK had no influence, it was down to the USA and the USSR
Lessons from history.

I remember watching an interview with Paddy Ashdown and William Hague some time ago. Hague was talking about China being Enemy Number 1, but Ashdown shook his head and said that he was ignoring Russia and what was happening (at the time) in Ukraine. Ashdown was right and the US will have a crucial role in what happens in that part of the world. We can't afford to ignore the President of the US.

The only thing I remember about the cuban missile crisis is my mum being worried. And my mum doesnt do worry, so it had an impact on me!

I suppose you are right?

I did read somewhere on gransnet I think, that the UK would have to get permission from the US to activate its nuclear missiles?
Is that right, or did I get the wrong end of the stivk?

I will google cuban missile crisis. Would that have affected the UK per se? I will google!