Respect the office

That is precisely what we are talking about.
How what Trump acts and behaves is at variance with the standing of his office and how he consequently thereby shows a lack of respect for it.
The office is bigger than the person -or at least it should be - but Trump does not appear to see it that way. His illogical utterances, his equally wildly illogical actions (the immigrant ban, banning the BBC from a White House press conference (?), the "last night in Sweden" diatribe, the banging on about the Bowling Green 'massacre"(?) , getting involved with Ivanka's business fiascos, and others) reveal a man who appears to believe hnself to be above the accepted conventions.

I think his twitter account should be closed.By himself, of course.Also, he he could count to ten before saying anthing, that may be a good idea.Other than that, his advisors/team will have to earn their large salaries by doing just that....advising.In the not so distant past, we didn't know what the President was thinking all the time, now we do, hardly a good thing.If he stays the course of the five years he will be a wiser man by the end of it, and the next Pres will find that he/she will be considered a saint by comparison, so in the long run, no I don't think that Trump will harm the 'office' of POTUS.

We are talking about the standing of the office, which is a different thing entirely to what he does or does not do.
The standing of the office will still be there in 4 or 8 years. Unless the american people again vote in someone a bit like Trump. Which is their business. Their choice. Their perogative.

I think I see things in bigger time spans than most

Snort!!
Who are you kidding?

But it will. Even if it takes 40 years.
I think I see things in bigger time spans than most.

The circle of life and all that.

As POTUS, Trump is the most powerful man in the Western World , can one accord him too much importance?

One out of 45 admittedly.
Out of interest how many US Presidents did it take to drop the bombs which destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ushered in the Nuclear age?

The personality of each president puts a stamp on the office, which is not erased after they have gone. The more flamboyant the character, the deeper the impression goes, just as a car crash leaves deeper dents in the bodywork of a car than an uneventful drive. The dents that Trump leaves will take some time to be smoothed out.

Credibility? Importance? Weight? Gravitas? I am not sure of the exact word.

But too much importance in the grand scheme of things, bearing in mind he is the 45th President.

One out of 45.

"That would be people giving him too much I dont know what."

Sorry I don't know what you mean.

DT is not behaving as most people expect a president to behave and that is affecting the standing of the office.

Is it though?

There will be Presidents after Trump. Will one President make such a difference? And if he does, should people have let him? That would be people giving him too much I dont know what.

"Degenerating"?
denigrating??

And people seem to forget he won the race!
If Clinton had won by the exact same margin, there wouldnt have been a hoo-haa. Why would there have been?

The americans, by using their system, chose Trump.

It seems disrespectful by us in Britain to keep degenerating the american choice.

Who are we?

We complain loud enough ourselves, when Obama comes over here telling us how to vote!

The person brings the office into disrepute as people judge the office by the person.

People have expectations of their Heads of State whether they be monarch or president and if those expectations are not fulfilled the people begin to loose respect in that office.

Look how our own royal family's and therefore that of the office of monarch have waxed and waned over the centuries. We always think of Queen Victoria as being much loved but actually there was a period when people where genuinely asking, 'What's the point of her?' She was not fulfilling her perceived public duties and therefore the office as well as herself came in for criticism and under threat.

George V changed the family name to Windsor during WWI because the British people where so anti-German everything and let's not forget the Royal family are of German descent. He and Queen Mary then reinvented the role of the Royal Family hence all the walkabouts and getting to 'know' the people.

George VI and the current Queen have continued this policy but still had to tread carefully. Look what happened when the public thought that the Queen hadn't reacted appropriately to Princess Diana's death.

DT is not behaving as most people expect a president to behave and that is affecting the standing of the office.

Trumo will influence US politics but he won't control them.

Guess I'm saying that I din't think it matters if Trump doesn't respect the constitution. What happens in (and from) the US doesn't depend on him alone, just as it didn't depend just on Obama or any other past president.

It's odd for someone like me to mention faith but it is not a superstitious faith but faith based on the evidence of human will and skill. I don't think all Republicans are bad people, nor that they want to damage the constitution of their beloved country any more than I think Democrats are all lovely and full of good intentions.

Could it be that, like me, ankers has sufficient faith in the US Constitution to think that he cannot disregard it? That he'd be impeached first. In short that the constitution is protected by law and Trump or any president won't be allowed to disregard it.

Which word out of "careless", "disregard" and "constitution" troubles you Ankers??

I wondered what absent meant by careless disregard for the constitution too.

Aren't all the advisers and civil servants (are they called the same in the US?) the ones who are supposed to deal with and understand, as far as these things can be understood beforehand, how the political diktats of the a president or prime minister or monarch will be put into practice?

I think it's too easy to make judgments about a person one doesn't like either personally or politically. I'm not convinced Trump can disregard the US Constitution. It was written with protection of itself and the country it serves in mind.

All of which is not to say that I don't find him as distasteful as anyone else might. I don't think the constitution of the US is in danger.

I dont think you need be concerned about the President signing diktats without any idea of how they will be put into practice.
He will keep trying until he finds a way.

If I were you, I would be much more comcerned that he does get his way on some things, not that he doesnt.

Some of what you describe is same old same old as regards the whitehouse and american politics.

I do agree though that saying stuff without evidence is tiresome at the very least.
If no evidence is made public about the tapping for example, then he either shouldnt have perhaps said it in the first place, as for whatever reason he cant make it public, or there is no evidence in which case that is really bad behaviour of him, and people will not forget that.

Donald Trump is not a man that deserves respect. He has done nothing to deserve respect and has done everything to lose it.

While it might be true that the current president does not deserve respect, the office of the presidency does. That is to say, respecting the presidency does not necessarily mean respecting the person in office. The blatant disrespect that Trump has shown for women, for minorities, and for immigrants speaks volume about the character of this man. Trump has and will continue to wield power in an effort to maintain his image and self-interest. These he put before the dignity of the office of president.

I agree completely, absent

It is impossible to imagine that Trump can continue in this way for the next five years but goodness only knows how it will all change.

The way he is behaving: conflict of interest with regard to his businesses; nepotism; signing Presidential diktats without any idea how they will be put into practice and how they will affect the citizens of the country; making accusations of illegal and/or unethical behaviour without a shred of evidence; careless disregard for the Constitution, etc.