Scottish Referendum Autumn 2018 - Spring 2019

If NS succeeds in getting her referendum who will be funding it?

NOT ME, I HOPE!!
Sorry to shout but I would like to get the message across that I would be just as resentful, speaking as a British taxpayer, about funding referendum after referendum until wee Nicky gets what she wants as some Scottish taxpayers appear to be about funding the British and Commonwealth Head of State.

Does NS see herself as a future President, Head of State of Scotland, Highlands and Islands and a prominent figure on the workd stage?

I understand that many Scots want independence from the UK but is it economically viable ?

Having been branded a Liar and Ranter with false memory syndrome, I shall leave this discussion. Congratulations - you have succeeded in silencing me again.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/15/nicola-sturgeon-abandons-bid-remain-eu-poll-shows-record-level/

So Nicola Sturgeon is threatening another Independence Referendum on the basis that Scotland voted Remain? And yet this article today shows that she has plans to not necessarily seek to either rejoin the EU or "remain"?
Are the voters of Scotland being offered what we used to call "a pig in a poke"? (Don't know if the concept or saying is common in the rest of the UK, but basically means they would be giving her a blank cheque to do whatever Sturgeon wanted to do at the time) Whose eyes is she attempting to pull the Cheviot wool over?
You can't have it both ways Nicola Sturgeon.
The glaring inconsistency of (ostensibly) bleating "we want to remain in the European Union" while agitating to break up the UNION that is the UK is a travesty of government in any case. If there are other plans she needs to make them public and be honest with the electorate.
The SNP do not have a mandate to inflict a repeat of the expense or heartache of the Independnce vote - other than to promote Nicola Sturgeon's vanity. She does NOT speak for all Scots.

Why on earth would anyone want to discuss politics on what presumably was a convivial get together with people from all parts of the UK is beyond me! Recipe for disaster! which, judging from this thread, for some, it clearly was!!!

I resent the lie told by the above!
I DID NOT ASK ANYONE TO CUT THEIR TALK SHORT
However it was in fact very anti British and could only be described as a rant.

Yes PamelaJ1 I guess NS will just call for referendum after referendum until she drums up enough English hatred and gets the result she needs.

I'm just looking at the front page of the newspaper- a YouGov survey shows 57% of scots want to stay in the UK

At 55.3% versus 44.7%, it was quite clear that the Nats were not speaking for everyone.
That is a large gap, and personally I wouldnt at all be surprised if the vote were to turn out much the same again.

I wholeheartedly agree with Floradora. Sorry everyone. I'm as irritated by the Nats as you must be. They definitely do not speak for all of us up here.

Another jolly light hearted thread like the ones we have had on UKIP, on the Referendum, on the General Election and on Brexit.
I suppose it is too much to hope for that this one might retain a degree of reasoned comment, mutual respect and GSOH?
On your marks, then, get set........

Can I just say sorry to the rest of the UK . you must be heartily sick of this referendum question cropping up again . I feel ashamed at the antics of the SNP especially Ms. Sturgeon . She is all out to gain independance at any cost and what a cost it will be . If we were to joint the EU ( a big if ) on leaving the UK we might loose our biggest export market by far which is the rest of the UK. There is no guarantee the EU will have us anyway . I am a proud Scot and would not want to live anywhere else but am glad my grandchildren live elsewhere .Last referendum DGD was worried we would not speak to them again if we left the UK .

Granny23 your memory may be clear, but it is mistaken.
I remember asking you a question, I think it was about whether Scotland would have to apply for membership of the EU in the event of leaving the UK.
I did not at any point ask you to cut your presentation short.

My memory of that day is quite clear thank you. What I thought was a lighthearted look at the referendum, went down like a lead balloon. There was no booing per se rather I was asked, with icy politeness (by Jane & Galen) to cut it short as they could not/would not listen to any more.

I exited, stage left and spent the next hour sobbing in a bus shelter. I was so embarrassed, especially as my sister, who had come along to talk about CHAS, was present. Had she not been there I would have gone straight home at that point but I stuck on a straight face, managed to get through the lunch and afternoon, and made no fuss then or after, as I would never, ever do anything to upset the wonderful Elegran and her usually enjoyable meet-ups If you check the photos from that meet-up you will see that I do not appear in any of them (nor was I mentioned in the vote of thanks at the end - I didn't notice that but my sister did).

And again - comments, remarks which are aimed at the unequal Union or the Union Jack are not anti-English - unless you subscribe to the view that the UK = England with a couple of subsidiary bits stuck on.

Meant to say we were at "C2C" Yeee-Haa !

......and very good (and interesting) it was too Elegran

Actually I have just returned to England from a long weekend in Glasgow (might need a passport soon). It is a few years since we were there and a lot has changed. DH and I enjoyed fantastic (FREE) visits to both the Riverside and the Kelvingrove Museums. Met some lovely Scottish people and enjoyed a couple of lovely meals in the Clydebuilt restaurant within the SSEC before attending the evening events at the Clyde Auditorium AKA the Armadillo.

rosearered did you hear about afternoon tea at the gallery a couple of years ago, when a certain two people (who shall be nameless) confessed when they arrived that they had been tempted by a special offer of lunch they came across on their way, so were already full. However it didn't stop them doing justice to the plates of scones and cakes . . .

like a lot of eating! By gum, you Scots can pack it away ( respect.)

I don't remember G23 being booed off either, I suspect her memory of the day is coloured by her disappointment that not everyone thought that separating Scotland from the rest of the UK would be a good idea. I think she expected her reception to be more enthusiastic than it was. The crowd was only partly Scottish so there was some counter opinions expressed, but everyone was very polite and would not have dreamed of booing.
That was at an all-day meet-up, I had asked for people to give a short talk (of their choice) in between the coffee and cake, the sit-down lunch and the afternoon tea, to make it more interesting. (There was also plenty of chat going on, believe me, which squeezed out some of the prepared talks) G23 volunteered to talk about the referendum. Some others volunteered to talk about things too. We do a lot of chatting at these meets, but other things as well!

Ah, more a story or two and anecdotes?

What sort of presentations Jane ...it all sounds a bit world of business for a meet up?

I do remember questioning your Downton Abbey anecdote at a Gransnet Edinburgh meet up prior to the referendum Granny23 and whilst I stick by my feeling that your anti-English speech was way out of place for what was supposed to be a friendly all UK meet up (which happened to take place in Scotland) there is no way on this earth you were boo-ed off.

I did feel a bit hurt actually that quite a few of us had travelled from all parts of the UK (at great expense) to a friendly meet up only to be met with your Anti-English propaganda. Sorry but that is how it felt.

The Edinburgh meet ups have often had presentations on various subjects as well as a lunch, and have been very enjoyable roses

Probably was a mistake to let politics ( a presentation?Really?) get in the way of a good chatty meet up.It's something never mentioned at all the meet ups I have been to, and all the better for it.

Well, in that case trisher you are an honorary Scot it seems to me ( just about) so feel free to wear the tartan, play the bagpipes and vote for independence.
Just watch out for white walkers! (GOT fans will get it.)