Open Britain - Hard Brexit

Gilly T's post of 15.19 only says :-

" Actually, Jalima I spoke to a farmer on NYE who told me he had voted to leave the EU as he felt that the restrictions and rules and regulations were stifling production."

Monica said :-

"GillT57 the farmer you spoke to is in for a big disappointment when he realises few of the regulations he was hoping to get rid of are actually going to go."

Obviously Monica has a knowledge of which regulations are going to 'go' and which ones are going to 'stay'.

I come from a farming family (not my parents) and they would like to know as at the moment they are in the dark and hoping for the best.

" Part of the separation from Europe will include one major Act of Parliament incorporating into British law the vast majority of this EU legislation. "

Doesn't that point feed into the ' Great Repeal Bill '?

Gill's post 15:19:37

Monica

" GillT57 the farmer you spoke to is in for a big disappointment when he realises few of the regulations he was hoping to get rid of are actually going to go."

Which ones?

What most people haven't taken on board is that leaving the EU will not mean an end to all the rules and regulations the Brexiteers like to complain about.

Most of those rules and regulations were not forced upon us but agreed to by the UK government and if the EU hadn't brought them in through its regulatory system, they would have been introduced through Parliament or other UK regulatory process.

Part of the separation from Europe will include one major Act of Parliament incorporating into British law the vast majority of this EU legislation.

GillT57 the farmer you spoke to is in for a big disappointment when he realises few of the regulations he was hoping to get rid of are actually going to go.

Apparently the White Paper published about leaving the EU says how UK always retained its sovereignty while in the EU!

This is nothing more than the poisonous anti-EU propaganda printed again and again and again by the Express since the 1960s.

An analysis of newspaper coverage and influence on the EU referendum showed that the Express was the most biased of all the rabidly anti-EU papers, closely followed by the Mail and the Sun.

Sadly, newspaper influence (ie the agenda of the editors and proprietors) was actually the decisive factor.

I predict it will get worse as the awful consequences of the Leave vote begin to become apparent.

www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/781248/Countryfile-BBC-Brexit-Adam-Henson-Twitter-migrant-workers

Beware, it is the Daily Express. Makes the Daily Mail look like sensible measured reporting.

Actually, Jalima I spoke to a farmer on NYE who told me he had voted to leave the EU as he felt that the restrictions and rules and regulations were stifling production, fair enough, it is his livelihood and he had obviously given the decision careful consideration. He did also say that food prices will rise. not his problem as he finds car boot sales his most profitable crop. So there we are. We have a combination of ill considered votes, selfish votes and misguided ( think big red bus) votes. What a bloody mess.

I cannot post the original I read as it was via closed group Facebook post and the Twitter account which I have been unable to find. Sorry. But you can see the logic behind some people not wanting to see any downside of leaving shown on TV.

I think many of these jobs are ones which people such as students might do in holiday time but of course many are needed longer than the holiday season.

Welshwife

I still don't follow how your latest post ties in with the statement you made re Brexiters wanting the programme banned for being anti Brexit.?

They are now worried about their grants just as Cornwall is worried about theirs. I think they needed to change some of their methods to fit in with EU regulations so maybe that left a bad taste and they were sort of basically anti EU without realising other consequences.

A few twitterers
Twitter is such a good word for such a load of nonsense

I wonder if the birds would be offended at having the name for their sensible conversations appropriated by a load of twits.

A storm in the Twitter teacup?

Still, it needs keeping in proportion, a few viewers complaining? Somehow made into
'They want the programme banned for being anti -Brexit' ....how many people want it banned?

However - a lot of Welsh farmers voted for UKIP and presumably Brexit - do they know something we don't?

a theme park for townies

That's right!! Some of them are quite affronted by the smell and by tractors holding them up for five minutes when they want to go out for a nice Sunday afternoon drive

Agreed Jalima, the countryside isn't a theme park for townies to wander around or admire from the comfort of their Sunday evening sofas, it is a working place, producing the food they have just eaten, the fools. It is imperative that the farmers and food producers have their say in the impact of Brexit, if the workforce is predominantly EU nationals then it is blindingly obvious that there is going to be a problem. Do these same stupid people think that Countryfile shouldn't report on disasters such as Foot & Mouth? On milk quotas? Or do they just want cute calves( by product of the dairy industry) and fluffy lambs ( the joint they have just eaten). I don't know what annoys me most, the wilful ignorance or the stupidity.

This fan moaned: “Always watch it after the Sunday roast with a glass of vino but is it going too far away from its roots. Keep it to country folk.”
Where the f* does he/she think his roast, his vegetables came from - and his vino probably from a foreign farmer.
Idiot!!

sorry for swearing, I don't usually.
#motherofexhaustedfarmer

I don't understand what the link had to do with Brexit - is it me?

In the link it states that COUNTRYFILE viewers were left raging by tonight’s edition of the popular rural programme, blasting the show for abandoning its “roots”.
“Less doom and gloom (Tom heap) more Anita, matt, Helen and animals please!” cried one audience member as another added: “I put on #Countryfile to chase AWAY the Sunday Night blues! Nothing but doom and gloom in the agricultural sector.”

What on earth do Countryfile viewers think the countryside is about if they don't want to know the reality of what farming can be like these days? It's not all about public rights of way, beautiful scenery, motorbikes churning up the land, fluffy bunnies and lambs frolicking in the fields.
The programme's roots are farming, the countryside, agriculture.

Where do people think their food comes from?
The sheer stupidity of some people (must be townies) never ceases to amaze me.

Welshwife

"I see that Brexiteers got upset about Tom Heap's piece about farming on Coubtryfile last evening - farmer talking about the seasonal workers he needs. They want the programme banned for being anti-Brexit. They did retaliate about not being able to take the facts as they are - the spat it seems was on Twitter.
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Are you saying you made that statement on the back of the link daphnedil provided as you replied "That was the link I saw DD - just scrolled back through another group and found it. "?

www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/661894/Countryfile-viewers-turned-off-Tom-Heap-doom-and-gloom-Twitter-famers
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If that is the case having read the link I believe you have , shall I say, unsubstantiated your statement .

I am happy to be corrected as I could well be missing something and you can provide more clarity.

oh - and I bought a bottle of Canadian ice wine in Lidl

Since moving to the UK their shops have become half full of trashy clothes and oddments for the garden and kitchen
I had better throw out my nice warm cardie, my very large and very useful tablecloth, DH's brand name binoculars, lots of boxes of 'very useful (apparently)' screws, diy tools, coloured paper for the DGC, Hello kitty socks, my plastic food containers etc etc etc
There may be some trashy stuff in Lidl but a lot of it is reasonably good quality.
You get what you pay for - if I want quality towels, bedding etc I will go somewhere else for a brand name.

Higher Education gets a lot of money in Wales too - for a while I worked in the Higher Funding Agency office - great schemes were funded in the Objective 1 areas.

Thanks Welshwife I hoped that someone with knowledge of reality would come along! I truly don't understand how people can believe that all funding will be the same as it is now. Now, I get it that people voted to leave the EU, and many had their reasons, but why should the same monies be available? This is sheer ignorance, stupidity, head in sand stuff. I have friends with family in Wales, and they were stunned when the majority voted to leave Europe, as my friends report, every small town has a community centre/playground/road scheme funded by the EU, and that is without consideration of farming subsidies. That stupid bloody woman Andrea Leadsom made a promise that there would be no change to funding, how? I do not understand how the Brexit team were able to make promises and assurances about funding when they did not have the authority to do so. This nightmare is getting worse.