Open Britain - Hard Brexit

Good post Yorkshire ( naturally, everybody on here won't like it)

Ok, *Yorkshiregel. Could you please tell me what we have to offer? That is one of the bits that is eluding me.

The EU army myth? Try this, written by a serving officer in the UK army:

tinyurl.com/zq9rbg4

Best decision we made in years imo! People should stop talking this country down. We have a lot to offer. Other countries can see that so why cannot the remainers? We were hurtling towards our children being dragged in to a European Army, when we already have NATO and the UN. mass immigration on a scale we have never seen before. Our fields covered in houses we do not need. Our fisheries are almost gone, our farmers are really struggling, people are having to go to food banks to feed their families. In what way are we better off in the EU? If the EU offers to fund things we have to equal the amount offered or it will be withdrawn. We pay much more in to the pot than most of the other countries and yet they still want more. The EU is great for fat cats, but it is a disaster for the working man. We were conned in to joining the Common Market by Ted Heath,who clearly knew what it would lead to, we have been conned over and over again ever since. The door to secret meetings has been slammed in our PM's face once too often and these EU Leaders only have themselves to blame for us leaving.

Cameron's Referendum back fired on him and he walked away. I think Mrs May is turning out to be a strong Leader and I think she is doing a good job. If she does a U-turn I would never trust anyone again. If Mr Corbyn would drop his stance on Trident I would vote for him next time though. He should put away his own ambitions and concentrate on what the country wants. He has his heart in the right place and would stand up for the workers who work all hours to keep this country on its feet. We do not need the EU monster. We are doing alright on our own, as we did before and will do again. I have no fears for the future of our country now.

I wouldn't want T May or any other PM male or female to be emotional in front of the cameras when they are doing their job Ginny there is a great deal to be said for a calm unflurried Leader, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have feelings.Would other women really prefer a PM who gets 'teary' either when speaking to camera or in the HOC.I doubt it.

durhamjen when will your little poisoned asides ever stop? You have so many!
You end your last little gem to me ....*Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the NHS do you* which is about as correct as your other comment Theresa May is your MP
( she isn't) why make all posts so casually rude and personal and often untrue?
For somebody who purports to be so very caring, you show very little of it on this forum.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/buy-british-button-could-let-online-shoppers-filter-foreign/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Back to 1966 then, the 'I'm backing Britain' campaign. Oh wait, I thought we were going to become a free trading nation with a glorious array of countries whose goods we would buy in exchange for us buying theirs?

You could wave an EU flag, suzied .

Though I wouldn't be surprised if her itinerary were kept very quiet so as to minimise anti Brexit demos...

I won't be on the streets waving the flag when she comes to visit. What will she be doing on this grand tour? A few photo ops at schools and hospitals? Waving from an open topped bus? A few speeches to her supporters in different locations? What's the betting?

Theresa May is planning a tour of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to build consensus before she triggers article 50 and embarks on the formal Brexit process, the Guardian reports.

Government figures say it was always planned to reach out to all parts of the United Kingdom, including responding to the Scottish government’s Brexit white paper, in the final two weeks of March before embarking on talks with the EU countries.

When was that announced? As if!

TM is a strangely unemotional person. Watch her when she's speaking - no emotion, except irritation when cornered.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-limbo-of-being-german-in-the-uk/

I have a theory that the reason May decided to stand for PM is because she realised that the Home Office job was the poisoned chalice of the Tory government. She had to try and reduce immigrants to the tens of thousands as Cameron said she had to. She knew it was impossible.
Now she can say what she wants, and expect Amber Rudd to do the impossible.
However, while she was Home Secretary, she managed to bring in this nasty piece of legislation.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/185283

Are you on countdown, Ginny? How long do you allow? Two years? Four years?

Obviously, roses, you just stay behind your rosetinted glasses, and don't read the news at all.
The migrants we want don't want to stay or come here. They are leaving in droves. 40% of GPs heading for retirement, and nobody to replace them.
Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the NHS, do you?

As an ardent remainer may I say two things?
1. Please stop using the expression 'remoaners' in the Forum it's hackneyed, patronising and rude.

2. I hope I am still alive and logging onto GN when the good life some people are expecting to come from Brexit arrives, because I hereby promise that I will be the first one to say to the good Brexit voters on GN,

'I must apologise profusely for getting it so wrong in 2016/17 when I campaigned so passionately to remain in the EU. You were right all along.'

Mazie I didn't get that from your post, but there is indeed some irony there! In any event, it's now my turn to take a break.

Why Djen what will you be actively doing then? Signing online petitions for something? Since we cannot personally oversee the leaving of the EU we tend to leave that to the politicians.That means waiting to see what deals they arrange.
We will have the number of immigration that we need less, the same, more.The days of not knowing how many EU immigrants will come here, or from which countries, or the types of jobs they are capable of doing, will be over.

theconversation.com/red-lines-and-red-rags-europeans-unimpressed-by-britains-tough-talk-on-brexit-74395

Now May's just got to persuade the rest of Europe.

So you are quite happy to have twice as much immigration roses, just as long as it is not unlimited?

I hope you are living off root crops at the moment, Ana. Not much choice of veg at this time of year.

Roses, why do you insist on telling us to wait and see?
We don't want to. We want to take part in meaningful discussions. If you don't want to, that's okay, you can just go and wait and see all on your own.

But not unlimited or uncontrolled immigration, a big difference.

Fitzy

I'm late back to this thread as I'e been doing nice things with GS all afternoon; but this:

Mazie you are just reinforcing the "dig your heels in" attitude of the two negotiating positions.

I suggest you reread what I said. Which was basically can anyone not see the irony of leaving the EU so as to limit EU immigrants while the price of trade deals with non EU countries post Brexit is likely to be increased immigration from them, instead?

I voted to remain but a democratic vote selected leave. I accept this as the will of the people, The majority was narrow but that's how democracy works. We should be proud and grateful to live in a country where democracy in paramount even if we are occasionally disappointed in the result.

Time we did more for ourselves in various areas, produced more, but just because we are leaving the EU doesn't mean that we cease to import food....why on earth should it?

Let's wait and see dd

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