Article 50 trigger 29th March

Anya I didn't say foreign workers were treated badly, I said they were paid more than they can get in their own country and that is a fact.

My nephew also worked on the fields, and I know it is hard work, no one is saying it isn't. There are good employers and there are rogues. Haven't you seen the reports of Eastern European workers being held to ransom by these gang masters who take their passports and demand rent for a tent and work them from dawn to dusk? It has been in the papers and on tv often enough. In no way am I saying any of them are not hard workers, I know they are desperate for work and I also know that some are treated badly.

Some Uni students, my own son included, prefer to work in a bar or something indoors. They are not lazy. Their main objective is to get the degrees they are paying through the nose for. They have to juggle work with their degree course and it is a big struggle for them. They also have to shop and cook for themselves.

Lets get on with it, and out of it!

I think that's the exception rather than the rule Yorkshire and that's called slave labour. I've seen the odd case reported. Most of our seasinal farm workers were from Spain ?? and very clued up.

My two also worked in bars while at Uni during term time but when they came home in summer that's when they took the seasonal work.

Seasonal

It is one of the myths most widely promoted by Brexiteers in fishing communities that the decline of the fishing industry is all the fault of the EU. It helps get an awful lot of people off the hook, the trawler owners who made huge amounts of money, planned to make more and got out without having to compensate any crew members, and the British government who failed to make any agreements with Iceland (unlike our European friends) and failed all trawler men. If you are interested www.wilmatheater.org/blog/hull-and-distant-water-fishing-part-four-cod-wars
I too am from a fishing community Yorkshiregel and have relatives who worked on trawlers so I know what happened.

Good post Anya .....but I think some people actually enjoy moaning, we probably all know someone like that in RL.

Good grief Yorkshiregel you do talk a load of nonsense and Little Englander fantasy. What a load of crap. If you really think that pre EU Britain was so great you have a very different recollection of political and economic events than most on here. But thank you, I now know who voted for Brexit and why. I fear for my future and for that of my children if political decisions have been made on the same basis as the rubbish that you have just written. I do not think that the EU is perfect, not at all, and agree with the comments made by some that it is a precarious and possibly unstable creation, but to justify your vote to leave by a load of Daily Express type nationalism is scary. Good grief

Gill a post I could have written!
I would like to know which banks are waiting to come to UK as Goldman Sachs have just announced they are moving a large number of staff out of UK to EU in advance of Brexit. The Australian minister has said that she expects a lot of business which currently goes through UK before going onto EU will now go through Ireland.
All sounding good so far.

I think some of you live in cloud cuckoo land or think you'll be dead before it affects you, I hope I'm wrong but I worry for my children and grandchildren

They now want to move the Banking Authority to the EU before Brexit as all the offices it deals with are within Europe. Looks like it will go to Frankfurt and be merged with another authority.

"Making Britain great again" was that a sound bite I've missed?

Well done us oldies for voting leave. Unfortunately we will be dead before the county stabilises, leaving our children to sort things out, and our grandchildren to inherit! I hope you are all writing a letter to the future, to the grandchildren, and great grandchildren to explain how you voted and why. I'm marching for Europe on the 25th, so my great grandchildren will have not only my reasons for remain - but the photo to prove I was there!

Well done us oldies for voting leave. Unfortunately we will be dead before the county stabilises, leaving our children to sort things out, and our grandchildren to inherit! I hope you are all writing a letter to the future, to the grandchildren, and great grandchildren to explain how you voted and why. I'm marching for Europe on the 25th, so my great grandchildren will have not only my reasons for remain - but the photo to prove I was there!

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Reinhold Niebuhr

I did suggest, pre-referendum, that 2 over 60's votes count as 1, and 1 pre-30s vote count as 2, but no one listened!

Wonder why not

Yorkshiregel You said it all for me, thank you.

It's very worrying when David Davis the Brexit Minister doesn't know what he is talking about.
It's not as simple as what the UK pays in and what we get back, it's about trade. We get huge benefits from the ease of trade with the EU.
I am worried about major employers moving head offices or factories to Europe, I'm worried about the disruption to trade if we leave the customs union, worried about shortage of qualified staff for the NHS when we can no longer fill vacancies easily from European sources.
I hate to think about Europeans in this country being kicked out (or feeling so insecure and unwanted that they leave). And I also worry about Brits who have moved to Europe to live, work or study.
I hate to think that Britain is arrogant enough to say that we don't need Europe. We live in a global economy and co-operation is the only way. The EU was set up to maintain peace after two hugely damaging World Wars. Membership has brought us sustained peace over the last fifty years. I don't want to form a closer alliance with Trump whose values are so unpleasant.
Some people may look back to Britain in the 1950s through rose-tinted lenses, but the fact is that the UK has become increasingly prosperous since we joined the EU.
I really don't like to think of the drop in standard of living, the unemployment risks, the lack of opportunity and instability for my children and grandchildren in the future.
Let's hope it can all be sorted out but I don't think we are going to get the fantastic deals that May's government expects.

It is not only David Davis mostly but we have Boris who suffers from foot in mouth disease and Liam Fox besides Nigel trying to get in on the act.

How strange that several new anti-Brexit posters have joined, apparently just to post on this thread!

Directed to this site, perhaps?

Bit like the Brexit supporters we get occasionally. Remember Mair, amongst others?

I don't think Mair was hounded off GN just because of her views on Brexit. As I'm sure you're aware, whitewave.

Ooooh! ana. What are you saying?

I'm totally - do these people think they can stop Brexit???

Seriously?

anya to suggest that, is to misunderstand what us who voted remain are saying.