Anti-Brexit march tomorrow WILL go ahead

And ab I'm another one who is fed up with your constantly trying to derail every thread with your anti-JC rants. We get it, we really do, it's boring and repetitive and counter productive.

Actuall niggly I'm going to tell you to STFU because I am sick and tired of your rude, nasty, negative posts. The ones on this are classic examples of you inimitable style which on this thread were even worse than usual as you used Wednesday's tragedy to make a cheap point against those on here who actually believe in something. What do you believe in? Have you ever marched or fought for something? Or do you just jump in every thread to denigrate and criticise? Talk about nomitive determinism. And the very idea that TF a LD jumped on a pro-Eu bandwagon? A LD pro-EU? Whatever next? Do you know nothing about politics?

It would seem that many of the Brexiteers do not think that anyone should be in opposition to them but simply give in and change their views entirely. As GG says Tim Farron has been saying all along he is against Brexit and so has Nick Clegg.
I see TM is most likely going to try and change UK law to suit her to be able to do as she wishes. What she is doing with the leaving the EU is not what was talked about at all by the leave side during the referendum.

As to the question about EU citizens married to UK citizens. - already people have had letters from the Home Office telling them to be prepared to leave the UK once Brexit takes places --- this is despite living in UK for 20/30 years working and paying NI and having children with British passports! The main reason is that they did not have some insurance covering their health when they were not working - although it is illegal for the UK to do this and also no one knew about this insurance - CSI - until fairly recently. People who have been to see their MOs about this have found the MPs have never heard of it either - indeed the Parliamentary Commettee for exiting the EU did not know about it either!!!!! It is just an excuse. A man married to a British woman was refused permanent residence as he sent a certified copy of his Dutch passport - he then reapplied sending the passport and got the necessary paperwork to stay. He is a scientist but was so upset by the whole thing is now looking for a new job to leave the UK. Many people are doing this already.

Then we can expect any critics of May to be told to shut up because she csnnot answer for herself and said with no regard to offending people ?

Back to the subject. Tim Farron is not jumping on any 'bandwagon' Niggly he was already on it; he has merely maintained his view.

Who cares if you 'find his protestations, completely insincere' he was never going to persuade you. You cannot accept that all you voted for is to 'leave the EU' that was what was on the ballot paper. That is happening so you are getting what you voted for but how it happens or whether, if the information changes we change our minds, were not because they had not yet occurred so it is perfectly proper to see them as a process as continuous decision.

And she never stops - I think that is excessive rudeness.

Just to make it clear Niggly I am not for or against Corbyn I am against the trivialising of everyone else's view by the continued nonsense. It is rude, rude, rude to take over conversations in that way.

Continuously attacking and denigrating one man who is no position to answer back with no regard to whether you are offending a large number of people, who are equally involved in the conversation, but do not like the bullying is also showing either a lack of good manners. Either that or it is an inability to judge when your instinct to take over every conversation with such rhetoric has become rude in itself Niggly. The occasional 'shut up' is nothing by comparison.

I saw Labour MPs on the march. They didn't seem to see any conflict of interest.
Annie knows that although Corbyn said to respect the result of the referendum, Labour still needs to fight for rights of all workers. Tory party couldn't care less about them, which is why they encourage zero hours contracts.
So I agree with GracesGran, that Annie is trying to divert the thread to her favourite topic.
It would be good if she could mention Labour without criticising Corbyn.

Is there concern that women from the EU married to and living in the UK are at risk?

Telling somebody to 'shut up' GG is actually rude but perhaps you are unaware of this fact. annie can say what she likes when she likes without referring to you or anyone else. If you don't like what she says then tough! If you don't agree with her views then at least express your disagreement politely, perhaps even putting forward an alternative view that can be discussed in a civil way
Imo Tim Farron is jumping on a bandwaggon. I find his protestations, completely insincere. Brexit has been a gift for his political career which he is milking for all its worth.

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Thank you to everyone who had anything to do with the march yesterday. We are coming to the end of the beginning but this has convinced me that we can still influence what the end turns out to be.

Annie do shut up. I was under the impression that it was the Labour Party not the leader who decided they would now support Brexit and the LP MPs have shown they have minds of their own when it comes to opposing Corbyn so could have said they wouldn't do it but they obviously didn't believe that is what they should do. I am remembering that - the way the MPs backed TM - rather than anything to do with Corbyn who you have now made a complete underdog in my mind.

Great placard dj. Fantastic to see so many people willing to march for this.

I'm so pleased the march went well and that the sun shone on the righteous If nothing else it was a celebration of our democratic values and we should all rejoice in that. I wish I could have been there.

The march showed up everything that is so good about the British. It was peaceful and polite but determined. People from all political parties and from all areas of society met together to ask that they are not forgotten.

The march was supported by the Libs, must have been difficult for many Lsbour MP's who worked so hard in the referendum csnpsign to be ordered to support Brexit by their leader

Today many of the protesters laid bouquets in Parliament Square near the scene where police officer Keith Palmer was knifed to death by on Wednesday afternoon.

Contrary to what a poster on here said that mentioning the terrorist attack in the context of this march was a cheap shot I think that marchers laying bouquets today was a lovely, thoughtful gesture.

From the March - someone took a lot of care with this one

Susie I am glad you enjoyed it - many people that I sort of know from the groups were going - they have been planning it for weeks! I am sure we shall see some other personal stories. X X

Nick Clegg spoke for millions of decent patriotic Britons, concerned for the future of their country, their children and grandchildren when he said -

“Thank you for standing for the principles of openness, tolerance and pluralism ... and a European Union that of course is not perfect but has done so much for protecting us from tyranny. Like many of you I was profoundly saddened by the outcome of the referendum but that sadness has given way to a perpetual sense of anger about the choices that Theresa May and her government have taken since. It was a choice to pull us out of the customs union, it was a choice to embark on that demeaning bout of transatlantic obsequiousness,” and accused the prime minister of “threatening to turn our country into a bargain basement cowboy economy”.

The march was great . Tens of thousands, good humoured, all ages, showing support for Europe. Not merely a protest but showing those in Europe that we're not all narrow minded and we aren't cowed by terrorists , as Katie Hopkins stated.

Best placard so far?

twitter.com/RachelCoxcoon/status/845622741738946560/photo/1

Except it was really an interview with Farron about Carswell.
The interviewer apologised for the noise! The noise was why he was there.

This is a good response to leavers from Jolyon Maugham.

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