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Brexit all done and dusted?

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Cindersdad Sun 02-Apr-17 16:47:13

As an arch REMOANER I for one (of many) will not simply roll over and say that is that. As things progress at the very least parliament must ensure that the country does not Brexit in a bad way because of "The Will of the People". So many lies were told by both side at the time of referendum that when the full facts come to light a re-think should be considered.

I have yet to hear a sound reason for voting LEAVE. Of course the EU is far from perfect but we are better trying to change it from within than sniping from outside. A general election or second referendum before the point of absolute no return.

I happen to be visiting Brussels on an educational trip after Easter so until then I will put up and shut up unless really provoked.

FarNorth Thu 04-May-17 20:24:41

My post was to saak and nn ^

FarNorth Thu 04-May-17 20:23:30

That's odd because Scotland has been told that if it leaves the UK it will still be liable for a share of the UK's debt.
Debt that Scottish MPs have had very little say in building up.

Is it not a very similar situation?

MaizieD Thu 04-May-17 20:23:11

people like you that cannot accept living in a democratic society

People are concerned at the prospect of living in a UK which has become a completely undemocratic one party state with a leader who has no interest in Parliamentary democracy.

Which doesn't mean they should go elsewhere; they are perfectly entitled to stay and fight for a principle established over hundreds of years.

A one party state which kicks people out for not agreeing with them is absolutely not democratic.

nigglynellie Thu 04-May-17 20:16:14

Hear, Hear stillaliveandkicking! grin

stillaliveandkicking Thu 04-May-17 20:04:44

I pride myself as being part of a very fair nation, we want out of a club full of power hungry greedy dictators. I've never heard of any club wanting members to keep paying once left or paying a fee to leave, have you? More and more the dictators of the EU are showing their true colours, if the likes of jen et al cannot see this then maybe a move to Brussels or yes, even Scotland could be answer for her.

durhamjen Thu 04-May-17 20:00:06

At least three from Germany.

Ana Thu 04-May-17 19:54:51

roses there may be, but I can't think of any who post regularly on here.

stillaliveandkicking Thu 04-May-17 19:51:01

You knew exactly what I meant jen ("May" I call you jen?) Stupid or not, people like you that cannot accept living in a democratic society may (oh dear I've said it again) like to think about being somewhere more in line with your views.

rosesarered Thu 04-May-17 19:49:14

Not from Spain?

rosesarered Thu 04-May-17 19:48:35

Hopefully!

Ana Thu 04-May-17 19:48:16

Not many from Germany (one?). Quite a few ex-pats from France.

rosesarered Thu 04-May-17 19:48:11

We will always be in Europe ,but not the EU.

durhamjen Thu 04-May-17 19:46:24

By the way, we still are in Europe, and may still be in in ten years time.

rosesarered Thu 04-May-17 19:46:02

Ah, but you can operate on GN from anywhere!

durhamjen Thu 04-May-17 19:45:34

That's stupid, saaki.
I can still be on GN, no matter where I move to.
Have you not noticed how many on here live in France and Germany?
Have you ever thought of going away?

pbs.twimg.com/media/C_AHf38XsAEG2od.jpg
Just for you.

stillaliveandkicking Thu 04-May-17 19:45:20

Closer than Brussels I suppose.

Ana Thu 04-May-17 19:44:23

I thought she wanted to move to Scotland...?

stillaliveandkicking Thu 04-May-17 19:42:12

Ever thought of moving to Europe durhamjen whilst you still can grin Don't think you'd be missed very much.

stillaliveandkicking Thu 04-May-17 19:26:53

The EU is clearly going to fall and rightly so. I see durhamjen is still sending links and demanding people read them grin yawn yawn.

Welshwife Sun 30-Apr-17 13:10:11

The EU parliament has talked several times about the position of UK citizens in the EU and also those who wish to remain and still live in the UK - the 48% . They are often saying how Europe must not forget the 48% - something never mentioned in HoP!!!
If they come up with a viable way for UK citizens to also have European Citizenship It will be for any UK citizen who wishes to retain their European rights.
Amongst the agreement they wish to be sorted prior to Amy deals is that all citizens from whatever current EU state will continue with the same rights of healthcare wherever they live as they have now - ie. UK citizens in EU countries and Eu citizens in the UK.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 12:26:10

jackofkent.com/2017/04/the-three-examples-that-show-may-is-not-getting-on-with-the-job-on-brexit/

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 11:49:43

You obviously did not read the link, roses. The EU says about both UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK is a priority.Didn't realise you needed to be spoonfed that much.
"The status of EU citizens here and abroad" includes both groups. The UK is still a member of the EU.

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 11:43:43

They would not consider reciprocating!

trisher Sun 30-Apr-17 10:47:35

No she didn't she refused to give EU citizens in the UK any rights so the EU said it would not discuss until its citizens were protected. Something I think is completely acceptable.

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 10:43:19

TMay wanted to sort this out long ago, as we all know, it was the EU who refused to talk about it.