Brexit all done and dusted?

Electoral Commision is investigating Leave.EU referendum spending. Farage and Banks are understood to have worked with Cambridge Analytical which in turn is linked to Brietbart -Steve Banon. The Cambridge Analyrica involvement was not declared.

Our record is better than most of Europe going back a very long way, (mists of time) so I don't think anyone wants to go back to white faces only, whenever that was?!

Blimey that was a bit below the belt rose

You would need to go back a long way for that ( all white faces) but we have a long history here ( rather better than Germany) of accepting all races and religions and cultures.
T May will not , I hope 'give in' ( whatever that means)

I travel by plane from Frankfurt to Manchester very often and the plane isoften half full of engineers coming and going checking machines their firms have sold etc etc.
I over hear them at the check in on the way back discussing their cuatomers in the UK.
With this kind of trade which the UK needs there must be freedom of movement. Sometimes they have spare parts with them.
In the end TM must give in or it will be a disaster. Brexit will not bring back an old England with only white faces. You could also wish for Elvis to return to entertain us.

WW

Is it possible to ask 'who' or 'what' said that.

I am thinking Gina Miller , the activist.

Here are some notes which should interest everyone regardless of how they voted in the referendum, from someone who cares passionately about our democracy.

"Some voters will cast their vote in the upcoming election using it as a vote of confidence in the governments ability to negotiate with Europe. The next government will negotiate on many issues, but what this election cannot be seen as is a blank cheque for an as-yet-unknown deal.

Our values are embedded in the primacy of parliament, and in uncertain times, it is of heightened importance that our elected representatives exercise their democratic duty and use all levers at their disposL to ensure a fair balance of powers.

We need a change of tone of politics so that the next parliament is a place of integrity, purpose and reasoned debate.

The idea that parliament should simply rubber stamp any future deal the government presents it with is undemocratic, and reduces representative democracy to a mere footnote."

Our politicians should be able to debate vigorously and refuse anything that would damage our country.

" It is not too much in the mother of all parliaments to ask that politicians stand up for all our best interests"

Brexit!

One important thing with this election is I think to keep the loons from having too much say over Brexit. The worse thing of all is for the UK to seek a hard Brexit, it would be a total shot in the foot, - the other one we've already shot the first foot be voting Ntexit.

Tactical voting is definately needed to try to keep the loons from being voted in.

I am slumped in comfy chair worn out with small DGC visit, but it does look lovely outside.???

roses, it probably was! Couldn't tell...

Yes, sorry whitewave, of course we did. Think I need a break from all this political stuff...it's lovely out!

At least it wasn't one fowl swoop Ana

Yes, I did think that, it's either blow me down or knock me over with a feather,
But we knew what you meant WW

How can you blow someone down with a feather? Reminds me of a colleague of mine who insisted that 'one foul swoop' was correct.

I would be surprised if Le Pen won the French election.If she did though, the EU could not continue without France(in the event of them voting to leave.)

That's because he needs deals with them now, we cannot deal with the US until we are free of the EU, so in two years.So it doesn't matter.

Trump is going to favour the EU in trade deals above the UK. Well blow me down with a feather!!

I think I should have said "allegedly" if it's not proven. I understand that his wife received a substantial amount of money, but didn't actually do any work for it, allegedly! My money would be on Macron as overall winner, he probably has the least whiff of scandal about him, at the moment anyway.

It seems that quite a few people think Fillon has been stitched up but strangely even with this hanging over him he is still on with a chance.

I thought Filon was no longer a viable candidate due to filching public money. The French really don't have much of a choice between the hard right, the hard left and an unknown quantity in Macron, althouth ex finance minister I believe, but also ex Goldman Sachs . I am regularly in touch by email with one of my French cousins who lives near Aixe en Provence and he tells me how disillusioned the French are with their politicians. More than us from the sound of things.

Macron is a strong runner but strangely Fillon is not totally out of the picture it seems. This weekend is just really getting rid of the no hopers and the second round will be the more interesting and we will know what the real choice is.

The Italian Election in May 2018 will be as interesting.

It will be held in May next year but the Italian Constitutional Court recently set in place the opportunity for Italy to be able to call an early Election. Some thought that might be in June but it was obviously speculation and looks as though that may not be the case.

My bet is on Emmanuel Macron to win the French Presidency, not Le Penn. Although if they use 'tactical voting' to keep her out the margins are too close to call and they could in fact ' inadvertantly' give her a win.

Listening last night - Newsnight I think. The general opinion is that the EU is set to grow well and outstrip the U.K. in most areas. Unless LE Pen gets the premiership when it could all go pear shaped.

Apparently it is considered that it can easily survive the loss of the UK and perhaps Greece, but France would be a different kettle of fish.

Germany has got some power and, as a hugely successful economic nation always has had and will have. Much better that power is as a central plank within a partnership of European countries than as the aggressive, expansionist, military machine it became was between 1870 and 1945.