Brexit all done and dusted?

I think the EU will now start to bounce back, not crumble. They need to get these elections out of the way first, and i would think pro-EU people/parties will come through. I think there are more people in the EU who want it to work than the other way around, and they are just as determined.
The US now say they are now putting the EU ahead of us for a free trade deal. Inevitable really given the relative size and importance of the EU v UK. It's things like this that will convince those in the EU that it's much better to be in than out, for all its problems.

Don't you think its time to stop moaning now? There isn't going to be a second shot at brexit, no party will ever do this and overturn a "democratic"vote, it would cause absolute mayhem to say the least. It's done and dusted. All people like you are doing is putting the spoke in something that will not be changed and hampering getting the best deal possible, which is pretty stupid at this stage. France will be the next to get out too, the EU is finally going to crumble. Do you not see that it was a way for Germany to still have some sort of power after the war?

Trouble is Jen they all toe the line when told to.

If Theresa May ends up with a bigger majority, it could be that she has even more enemies in her own party.
MPs who voted to remain aren't going to change their minds just because there is a general election.

After dithering and refusing to answer the question Jeremy Corbyn has now apparently ruled out having a referendum when the terms are known. Total capitulation to Theresa May's policy of Brexit at any cost.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/20/jeremy-corbyn-john-mcdonnell-speech-establishment-people-brexit

Another good reason for the 48% to support the LibDems!

Actually, my last post was a Big Fat Lie - just couldn't resist! Sorry

You forgot add sniff ana

If free movement wasn't the reason they voted Leave, they won't be disappointed. I thought that's what I wrote.

It does,of course, mean that the UK would have to pay to be in the EEA.

I'm not convinced that everybody does know the implications of their vote nor what Brexit means.

Not really...I thought everyone knew.

Yes dd I was interested to read a while back that we are members of that. Cor interesting innit??

Presuming, of course, that that's why they voted Leave.

There has never been a referendum on leaving the EEA, which is what guarantees freedom of movement. There are likely to be legal challenges, so anybody who voted Leave could still end up very disappointed.

Wait and see!!!!! That old chestnut!! And no I'm not asking GN members, they know no more than the rest of the country. I want to be able to read the various manifestos and come up with a good idea of what the Post Brexit Britain will look like - after all we will not be able to vote again before 2022 (if we are still here)

As has been said so many times before whitewave, you'll just have to wait and see! No use asking GN members...(although I know you keep trying).

The really interesting thing is not whether Brexit will be implemented - that's yesterday's news. What I want to know is

What is being implemented?

This stance will win the Lib Dems some votes and also lose some.

The Lib Dems are alone in wanting another referendum/staying in the EU as both the Conservatives and Labour Party are willing to implement the result of the referendum.Quite rightly!

It is Liberal Democrat policy to have a referendum after the terms are known, with people given the choice of accepting the deal or rejecting it and staying in the EU.

Article 50 is not irrevocable.

If Labour are suddenly supporting this policy, that is to be welcomed, but it may not convince those who see Labour's stance on Brexit as muddled, and prefer the clear pro-EU stance of the LibDems.

But I understood that if Brexit is scuppered after two years of negotiations we still have to leave - but it would be with nothing.

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That is why Theresa May has called a snap General Election.

The opposition parties say we uphold the democratic vote result of the EU Referendum but then go on to say how they can / will scupper it.

If the SNP, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens do as some have called for and form a coalition of the left then they could win by overriding the General Election result 'if' the Conservative Party win the General Election.

Unless of course Theresa May 'get's the numbers' in the General Election AND her MP's do not rebel, Brexit could be scuppered even after 2 years of negotiations.

A50 appears to be revocable; the guy who wrote it certainly thinks so.

Re TMs potentially soft Brexit, the problem is she says she won't give in on freedom of movement, and the EU say that's an absolute requirement for any form of soft Brexit. I'm not at all sure what the other parties are suggesting. They say they want in unencumbered access to the single market but I've not seen any of them saying they would also agree to complete freedom of movement.

Labour are apparently thinking about calling for another referendum to accept or reject the final deal. But no detail as far as I know about what actually happens if it's rejected. I doubt this idea will make it into their manifesto.

I thought the triggering of Article 50 meant no going back. And yes, all the opposition parties seem to be opting for a soft Brexit, which is what I think Ms May is really aiming at too, although negotiations mean starting from a hard place. But the headline said How to STOP Brexit. Reverse it. Have any of the parties suggested another referendum?

In theory I guess it could, but that would mean ignoring the referendum or setting up another and getting a different result. But maybe what was being said was that the right coalition could opt for a very soft Brexit - leave the EU but signup to all the 4 freedoms including unrestricted immigration rights to all EU citizens?