So? Really, who cares apart from you?
Why doesn't Starmer hold another referendum?
This weather is getting me down. Is it May or March?
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As an arch REMOANER I for one (of many) will not simply roll over and say that is that. As things progress at the very least parliament must ensure that the country does not Brexit in a bad way because of "The Will of the People". So many lies were told by both side at the time of referendum that when the full facts come to light a re-think should be considered.
I have yet to hear a sound reason for voting LEAVE. Of course the EU is far from perfect but we are better trying to change it from within than sniping from outside. A general election or second referendum before the point of absolute no return.
I happen to be visiting Brussels on an educational trip after Easter so until then I will put up and shut up unless really provoked.
So? Really, who cares apart from you?
By the way, either Tim Farron or Theresa May could have been my MP if the people of North West Durham hadn't been sensible and voted Labour.
Let's face it whatever TM had said would be rubbished by certain people on here. As for TF, quite frankly JC sounded more sincere than him, much more in fact.
"Yet you appear to have no issue with Corbyn and Fallon making Easter Messages. "
Better ask POGS. This is what she said.
I said Farron in the message she criticised.
I haven't seen a speech by either Farron or Fallon today, so, as I said, can't comment.
Varian thank you for posting that link - I thought it good enough to read out to DH and he too agreed it was very good and in tune for the season.
I thought that TM was being more queen like than the Queen when she delivered her message - not what I want to see and neither do I want to see her continually telling lies about everyone uniting to make a great success of Brexit when so many reports are showing this is a very unlikely outcome - unfortunately for the UK. She obviously does not read any Remoaners sites or she would see that they are far from being united behind her!
Yuk!
Tim Farron, who is a Christian, but not a sanctimonious one like Theresa May, has delivered an Easter message which actually makes a lot of sense. Here it is -
www.libdemvoice.org/tim-farrons-easter-message-2-53926.html
Have May, Corbyn and Farron all delivered Easter messages? I must have missed them 
I thought it was the prerogative of the Pope and the A of C.
Why on earth would Michael Fallon be making an Easter speech to the nation?
Difference between a man /woman of God and a PM is that one devotes themselves entirely to good works, whilst the other has a country to run and therefore has to strike a balance. I would have thought this was fairly obvious
DJ Do you mean Fallon as in Michael Fallon, defense minister or Tim Farron, leader of the Liberal Democrats?
POGS, tosh.
I did not say I had no issue with Corbyn or Fallon making Easter messages.
If you read Corbyn's it is to me in the true spirit of Easter. May's speech is not. I agree with Rigby about using May as the figurehead.
Strange that you should want them all to be treated in the same way considering you think Corbyn immaterial in other ways.
I said I hadn't seen Fallon's so could not comment.
Try and get your facts right.
pogs you missed my point entirely about the British and religion.
Not sure what your elegant "tosh" is meant to convey
WW
Tosh.
The truth is ' ALL ' Prime Ministers have made Easter Messages.
The irony is those who espouse that there is no place for 'using' religion in politics have done exactly that to try and have a go at their number one go to target, Theresa May.
As for your comment " The British simply do not do God in the conventional sense. " I am happy to celebrate other faiths and religions and I am happy for those ' who do God ' in whatever form it takes to celebrate their belief and that includes Easter just as much as Diwali or Eid etc.
Extract from the Economist:
"But certain religious virtues always seemed lacking in Mr Blair as prime minister. One of the aims of most forms of spiritual development is to cultivate an appropriate sense of humility and self-awareness: a sense of one’s own fallibility, and a sense of how one appears to others, an ability to empathise, at least momentarily, with onlookers in very different places. At the height of his internationalist fervour, Mr Blair had little feeling for how Britain and other European powers were viewed by those members of the United Nations (about two-thirds of them) with recent memories of colonisation. He therefore had little sense of how hard it would be to convince the world that Britain deployed its army in a spirit of disinterested concern for humanity.
And above all, he lacked the sense, which is deep-rooted in the great religions, that human overconfidence can have unintended consequences. In his Chicago speech in April 1999, Mr Blair laid out a set of guidelines for intervention: it must be militarily feasible, peaceful options must have been tried, some national interests must be at stake. To many a politician from the developing world, there was something insufferably arrogant about an arch-colonial power asserting the right to intervene at its own discretion in situations where wrongs need righting, and regimes need changing.
To make a huge generalisation, the practice of religion tends to make people either more proud or more humble. Mr Blair’s spiritual journey is still, of course, a work in progress. But there has never been much sign of religion making him more humble."
Whilst I've made it clear that I don't think ANY political leader should deliver an Easter Message, I made TM the headline figure because a) she's PM and b) the rank hypocrisy in what she says about Christian values and the examples I gave in my post is beyond cheap. I am not religious at all but the friends that I have who are ( one is a Vicar) are the very opposite of her - they live and breathe their Christianity and it shines through all they do. They do much to help those affected by austerity and the benefit cuts.
WW, genuine question, did you feel the same way when Tony Blair made references to his religious beliefs when he made speeches too?
And a Tory.
Perhaps because she is the PM pogs?
DJ
I don't follow.
You bring Alistair Campbell into the fray who tells May to tread carefully about ' bringing faith into politics '. Another of your post suggests there should be a distancing of religion and politics.
Yet you appear to have no issue with Corbyn and Fallon making Easter Messages.
I understand anybody who finds the message wording annoying but why is only one Political Leader is singled out for making an Easter Message .
What selective memories some have 
It will almost certainly not have the effect she is hoping for. The British simply do not do God in the conventional sense. We are as QE1 suggested much happier if we did not wear religion on our sleeves
I had to smile at Maisie's suggestion that 'Remoaner' was the ultimate insult. If that is the worst insult anyone has suffered, they must have lived a very sheltered life.
And I have to smile at your, and others, inability to read sarcasm...
I don't think that any secular leader should hi-jack a christian festival to give out political messages.
Didn't stop him doing what, Chewbacca?
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