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Syria - what is to be done?

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whitewave Wed 05-Apr-17 08:22:37

Listening to an American this morning talking about air strikes. I haven't a clue but Assad must be stopped.

durhamjen Wed 12-Apr-17 22:31:59

Has to be put on the table, though, Fitzy.
Boris didn't get his way and he's in the government.

Fitzy54 Wed 12-Apr-17 22:44:15

Both Corbyn and Johnson had proposals that had to be put on th table. Neither were going to get far. I guess they both knew that.

Fitzy54 Thu 13-Apr-17 07:07:19

But maybe behind the scenes Putin will have told Assad to stop using chemical weapons.

thatbags Thu 13-Apr-17 08:12:10

I am liking Rex Tillerson's manner and apparent straightforwardness: trib.al/1Tm1fKi

Welshwife Thu 13-Apr-17 16:21:23

I have just see. Assad giving a speech on TV - he says that the last attack was a figment of the imagination and did not happen and was reported as happening to give Trump a reason to drop the bombs. He said it was not two separate incidents but the same one. I saw it - and what the reporters had to say about it - on France 24 -Channel 205 on a Freesat box.

What ever is happening out in Syria they have ruined what was a lovely country - when it is all sorted however will they get their society going again?
I think that these middle eastern cultures are so different to Western ones that they are best left alone to sort themselves out. The whole of that region is somewhat of a mess now. Up until recently Libya was functioning reasonably normally - we know a football commentator on their TV and radio channels and we were seeing postings and getting messages from him about his programmes but they have ceased for the last couple of months.

nigglynellie Thu 13-Apr-17 16:47:47

To be honest Welshwife I agree with your comments about the Middle East. Their culture is so different from the West that for us to try and impose western democracy is perhaps foolish and arrogant?!! Putin is right of course, get rid of Assad, and then what or who?! Remember what happened in Iraq when there was no plan of action!!

Iam64 Thu 13-Apr-17 18:35:34

It's a real dilemma isn't it, especially with a reactive, emotional responder in the White House.

We all loathe what's happening in Syria. We all know that interference in Iraq and Lybia caused chaos and has led to suspicion and often hatred of the US and its allies. I have no regard for Trump but his insistence (pre election) that the US would not get involved in Syria and would no longer see itself as the Police person of the world suggested things would change. They seem to have but not for the better.

rosesarered Thu 13-Apr-17 18:52:27

If the Trump administration, had wrung it's hands over Assad 'chemical bombing'
his own people, but done nothing , what then? Even more of the same, that's what, with Putin laughing over the ineffective US.The bombing of the airfield has given Assad and Russia pause for thought.Good!

whitewave Thu 27-Apr-17 10:37:59

I see Johnson declared unilaterally that we will almost certainly go in with the USA if Trump decides to invade Syria, and without recourse to Parliament.

Luckygirl Thu 27-Apr-17 10:54:09

Yes - heard that this morning and it seemed a bit too "off the cuff" for my taste. Pronouncements with such dangerous and far-reaching potential results should be fully and openly debated. Does he have the authority to make this statement of his own bat?

whitewave Thu 27-Apr-17 11:00:08

I thought the same luck I think what it really shows is his immaturity at needing to catch the limelight with off the cuff and what he thinks are "oh such clever" remarks. He really is a lose cannon and not to be trusted. A tad too chaotic for my taste.

whitewave Thu 27-Apr-17 12:47:14

I would imagine that May choked over her breakfast tea when she heard him, well I sincerely hoped that she did.

whitewave Thu 27-Apr-17 13:14:03

What really is worrying though is that the next Tory government is even thinking of entering Syria militarily. I thought Iran would have taught them a lesson. But clearly Johnson has learned nothing.

I hope that this poodle like stance towards America isn't all part of the charm offensive in the hope that they will throw us some crumbs from their trading table. Their minister for Commerce has already indicated that the E U comes before us and that we are small beer when it comes to trading partnerships.