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Voting quandry

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marbles Mon 24-Apr-17 12:42:44

I'm a life-long Labour voter but cannot bear to suppprt Corbyn in the forthcoming election. The party will remain a shambles until it is under proper leadership and he seems to have totally lost the plot. I will not vote Conservative for many reasons and I feel betrayed by Theresa May's u-turn on Brexit, u-turn on not calling an election...there is no trust.

I will not abstain - the vote is a privilege. But for the first time I am seriously at a loss. There is no credible opposition. Locally there are no viable candidates that I feel I can endorse in order to make a point. I need to put my X in the box and it's the first time ever I've thought they are all as bad as each other.

Ana Sat 29-Apr-17 14:37:44

Ha, ha - and you think daphned isn't?(sorry dd, but really...)

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 14:30:57

And the Tories have good ones?
You live in a different world from me, but then I'm in the bottom third of the income scale.

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 14:30:14

The late Duke of Westminster didn't live in London. I don't know where the new one lives.

Fitzy54 Sat 29-Apr-17 14:29:19

DJ Labour will borrow £100bn and print the rest. That on top of what we already owe. They are counting on substantial and very fast growth and are crossing their fingers that inflation won't go through the roof.
I agree with some of what posters are saying about Corbyn but I think he and those who follow him have very dangerous economic policies.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 14:29:15

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/29/lack-diversity-parliament-election-change

Here's another way to think about voting.
Parliament needs another 150 women to be representative.

It needs another 50 black and minority ethnic MPs to reflect diversity.

Chance to get rid of the old boys network?

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 14:21:36

And they all live in luxury in Mayfair and Belgravia!

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 14:11:38

Sorry ellenoo, I don't think this kind of electioneering will get you very far on here. You'd better go back to LP HQ for an update. GN gets visitors from UKIP too before elections.

By the way, I think it's a bit cheap using a picture of the late Duke of Westminster, who once said that he'd have been happy not to have inherited so much wealth. He didn't expect to become Duke and only inherited, because his brother died. The Grosvenor Estates employ thousands of people.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 14:08:13

Maybe that's what we should do, ellenoo, try to appeal to Hugh Grosvenor's better nature, and get him to pay the deficit.
One can but dream....

ellenoo Sat 29-Apr-17 14:01:43

And as for money do your research - the Tories have increased the national debt over and over again..more so than any Labour government. Labour would address this by closing tax loopholes the wealthy use and corporate tax dodging...

Just dealing with the instance in attached picture would deal with the NHS deficit on one move!

Anniebach Sat 29-Apr-17 13:53:15

I am sure many have died during the time of this govdrnmrnt and the same for all previous governments regardless of party

ellenoo Sat 29-Apr-17 13:52:53

to have the vote that should say - typo doh

ellenoo Sat 29-Apr-17 13:51:44

Regarding Corbyn himself - he is a man of dignity and principle - I doubt very much any of us would agree 100% with all facets of any politician in fact!

He has a good track record and integrity... which is more than can be said of many in the Tory party... Don't be swayed by polls - YouGov for example was set up by 2 Tories! One of which - millionaire Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi, unlawfully claimed thousands of pounds of taxpayers' cash to heat his stables! Corbyn meanwhile has claimed £8.43 odd for stationery costs.... I know who I would trust more!

ellenoo Sat 29-Apr-17 13:47:24

Please do note waste your votes by spoiling papers or not voting at all - women died (on the anniversary of the election in fact) for us the have the vote... Yes the system is not ideal and we should work to change it but please use your votes

Thousands and thousands of people have died and are suffering under this current goverment - and more will follow if they get in again - also our NHS will be no more that is the bottom line for me!

Please do not believe what you read in the main stream media nor hear from the BBC - the latter are under threat by the current Tory masters also...

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 13:08:42

A man of Kent called Farage
Said "Je n'aime pas le fromage"
So he set off in a hump
To see his mate Trump
Surrounded by his dodgy entourage

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 12:44:00

There once was a young nipper
Who wanted one day to be a Kipper
They wouldn't let him be a peer
Because he hadn't played for Tranmere
So he became a big real ale sipper

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 12:39:55

Brilliant gracesgran and nigglie! smile

I knew others would do better. I'm at least a furlong behind.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 11:41:44

Well done, Gracesgran.
If you do them for other parties the voting quandary will be over.
Vote for the party with the best limerick.
Better do a rubbish one for Ukip.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 29-Apr-17 11:38:15

I thought I would try - hope that's OK daphnesmile.

There once was a women called May,
Who thought that this was her day,
I'm both strong and stable,
Was all she was able
To repeat, day after day.

There was also a man called Corbyn,
Who'd decided to put his oar in,
Not for few but for many
He declared it would then be,
When he beat May and got Labour in.

Anniebach Sat 29-Apr-17 11:00:18

Brilliant Niggly

nigglynellie Sat 29-Apr-17 10:45:43

' But in truth, that was only a fable'

daphnedill Sat 29-Apr-17 10:32:16

Lazigirl TM has recently appointed Lynton Crosby.I wouldn't mind betting he had something to do with it plus "strong and stable".

I'm going out today, but have been trying to write a limerick.

So far I have:

There once was a woman called May-ble
Who lived in Parliament's stable
She wanted to be strong
But she was often wrong
....

Anybody do better or come up with the last line?

Apparently May forgot where she was yesterday wnen she gave an interview. grin Funny that the MSM didn't report it.

Anniebach Sat 29-Apr-17 10:01:44

For some strange reason you want me to stop posting my opinions yet flood boards with yours.

I post what is true and will continue to do so,

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 09:55:16

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/09/02/standard-poors-say-the-pqe-could-pay-a-250-return/

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 09:53:28

Fitzy, which do you think is better, giving money to banks in the hope that some of it will trickle down to help the workers, or using it to build the 200,000 affordable houses we need each year so that the money gets into the economy that way?
Governments don't need to borrow money, they print it. That's the idea of PQE. Print money and put it to work at the bottom end of the pay scale, get ordinary people into jobs, start building again.

durhamjen Sat 29-Apr-17 09:49:05

Change the record, Annie.